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    Help with finding particular solution of a 2nd order linear ode

    Homework Statement obtain the general solution y(x) of y''-2y'+y=e^(2x)/(e^x+1)^2 Homework Equations variation of parameters The Attempt at a Solution I have obtained the continuous equation. I tried two methods of variation of parameters, but both of them got me stuck. 1...
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    Non linear 2nd order ode not able to solve

    u'u''-k1u=-a*cos(hy)-b where,u'=du/dy; and and a,b,k1 are constants conditions u(-H)=0; u'(0)=0; where 2H is height of the channel where the liquid is flowing please help any suggestions are welcome i couldn't find the analytical soln numerical soln also am havin a dead end so please
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    Pointers for the solution of 2nd order DE with variable coefficient

    Hi, I am looking at the following 2nd order DE with variable coefficient: y''(x)-(1/x+7)y(x)=0 I would be grateful for any help in regard to methods which may be applied to such an equation. Many thanks in advance! C.
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    Can a single-DOF system with non-linear damping be solved analytically?

    Hi I am trying to solve an analytical solution for a single-DOF system with a non-linear damping component: mx'' + B2x'x' + B1x' + Kx = 0. Tried in maple with no success with the non-linear term in the eqn. Thanks in advance.
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    Solving a 2nd order ODE with variable coefficients

    Homework Statement the problem is to solve this differential equation: x^2 y'' + xy' + (4x^2 - 1)y = 0
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    2nd order ODE with Sin function.

    Hey guys! I'm trying to solve a 2nd order differential equation. I am quite familiar with the method of solving these equations like treat them like characteristic equation ODE. but there's a question which I really want to solve. question is d^2 X/dt^2 +dX/dt +sinX=0. How should I solve this??
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    MATLAB Solving a 2nd order ODE in MATLAB

    So I've been trying to figure this out for a while now and all my attempts have failed, like I tried using the command ODE45 but it did not work... this is the equation -> m(d^2x/dt^2) = −kx − β(dx/dt) I'm given that 2λ = β/m, and and ω^2 = k/m and I must solve for when λ^2 − ω^2 > 0 I...
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    Free Fall Question (Non-solvable 2nd order equation)

    Hi, This is from "3000 solved problems in physics". Yes, I have the solution but I still have a question. a ball is thrown vertically upward with a velocity of 20 m/s from a top of a tower having height of 50m. On its return it misses the tower and finally hits the ground. What time t elapses...
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    Using Mathematica to solve 2nd order system of nonlinear ODE's

    Hello, I've started learning how to numerically integrate ODE's and I've run aground when i posed a 2nd order system for mathematica. Here is my initial code: NDSolve = [{x'[t] == -y[t] - x[t]^2, y'[t]==x[t], x[0]==1, y[0]==0.5},{x,y},{t,0,30}] and i get an error message saying the...
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    2nd order inhomogenous equations

    Homework Statement Find the general solution to the differential equation \frac{d^2y}{dx^2} -2*\frac{dy}{dx} +2y =g(x) where g(x) = −14 cos(2x) − 2 sin(2x) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution ive found the homogenous solution which is y=e^x (ae^ix +be^-ix) what I...
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    2nd Order Linear DE (homogeneous/wronskian/euler-cauchy)

    Homework Statement The equation t^2y'' + 4ty' -4y = 0 has a solution of y(t) = t. Find a second, linearly independent solution. 2. The attempt at a solution Ok so I just applied the Cauchy Euler equation method to find a general solution of y = c1*t^-4 + c2*t Where c1 and...
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    Unique soution of this 2nd order diff equation.

    Hi guys have a big problem trying to find the unique solution to the 2nd order diff equation shown below: y’’(x) = 2xy’(x) + 4y(x) where y(0) = y’(0) = 1
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    Solving 2nd Order PDE for dx/ds in d^2x/ds^2 - (2/y)(dx/ds)(dy/ds) = 0

    Homework Statement Need to solve for dx/ds in the following equation, keeping dy/ds. Homework Equations d^2x/ds^2 - (2/y)(dx/ds)(dy/ds) = 0 The Attempt at a Solution I can just rearrange to get: dx/ds = (y/2)(ds/dy)(d^2x/ds^2) But, this is not clean to use for some later...
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    2nd order differential equation for Catalyst

    Homework Statement There's a catalyst pellet in a reactor and I'm supposed to prove an equation for the maximum temperature which is: Tmax=Ts +[(-H)*(D*Cas)]/k Tmax= max temp, Ts = temp at catalyst surface, T=temperature, H=enthalpy of rxn, D=diffusivity, Cas= concentration at...
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    2nd order differential equation in Reaction Engineering

    There's a catalyst pellet in a reactor and I'm supposed to prove an equation for the maximum temperature which is: Tmax=Ts +[(-H)*(D*Cas)]/k First thing I did was develop an Energy Balance across the spherical catalyst and I got the following equation: (1/r^2)*d/dr(r^2*k*dT/dr) +...
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    Paper buckling and 2nd Order NL ODE

    Hi all, I was looking at the buckling problem of a piece of paper with both ends clamped. When the two ends come closes they form a bulb-like shape and I was interested in deriving the shape numerically by solving NL ODE, which comes from energy methods (neglecting gravity). The ODE I got...
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    Solving 2nd Order Diff Eq in Quantum Mechanics

    So I was trying a few quantum mechanics problems and encountered this diff eq: \frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2}{\partialx^2}\psi(x) + \frac{1}{2}kx^2\psi(x) = E\psi(x) I put it into the form: \frac{\partial^2}{\partialx^2}\psi(x) + (\frac{2mE}{\hbar^2} - \frac{m}{\hbar^2}kx^2)\psi(x) = 0...
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    Help 2nd order ODE totally clueless

    Find the general solution of x2y'' + xy' + (x2 - 1/4)y = 0 and express it in terms of trigonometric functions. (You don't actually have to solve the equation from a trial function in this problem, but you must identify the differential equation. Then, you may write the solution and prove...
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    2nd order DE: finding particular solution

    Homework Statement Find the general solution of the following differential equation: y" + 3y' + 2y = sin ex Homework Equations y = yh + yp homogeneous solution: (found by solving characteristic eq) yh = Ae-2x + Be^-x The Attempt at a Solution from my table if r(x) = ksin(wx)...
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    Getting 1st order ODE's from a 2nd order ODE

    Equations: (d^2r/dt^2) - r*(dθ/dt)^2 = -10/(r^2) and r^2*(dθ/dt)=1 How would I get three 1st order ODE's from this?
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    MATLAB Solving 2nd Order ODE with MATLAB:Input Argument "a" is Undefined

    hi i am trying to solve second order ODE in MATLAB but when i write my scribt and call into the command window using ode45 i get input argument "a" is undefined i have spent so much time trying to figure out what the problem is but unsuccessful. the function is as follows function...
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    2nd order ODE reduction of order method

    Homework Statement x^2 y''+2xy'-12y=0,y_1=x^3 y''+(2y')/x-12y/x^2 =0 Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution y=uy_1=ux y'=u' x+u y''=u'' x+2u' subbing that in instead of y,y',y'' u'' x+2u'+2(u'x+u)/x+12(ux)/x^2 =0 now my book says to reduce the...
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    Help simple 2nd order linear ODE

    Hi, could anyone give me a hint on what method to use to solve this ODE: v''+(2/t)v'+(b)v=0, b is a constant and v=v(t). Most of my ODE training resolves around how to solve the above equation with constant coefficients. AND all of my reference books say that "the nonconstant case is...
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    Picard Iteration, with a 2nd order ODE

    Homework Statement Ive been told to perform 2-3 Picard Iterations on the following problem Homework Equations y'' = 6y^2 With initial conditions: y(0) = 0 y'(0)= -2 The Attempt at a Solution In class we've gone through how to perform picard iterations and it has been easy so far...
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    2nd order differential equation question

    Homework Statement y''-3y'=4 Homework Equations none The Attempt at a Solution I've been looking at this problem for the last hour and have absolutely no idea on how to solve it. My initial approach is this: y''-3y'=4 therefore r^2-3r=0 so r =0,~3 giving a...
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    Non-homogeneous 2nd order linear ODE help

    Homework Statement y''-3y'+2y=t e^{2t}+sin(5t) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I can get as far as this: y_h(t)=c_1 e^{2t} + c_2 e^{t} y_p(t)=At e^{2t} + B e^{2t} + C sin(5t) + D cos(5t) My professor says we multiply At e^{2t} + B e^{2t} by t to give At^2...
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    MATLAB Matlab 2nd order ODEs for Rocket Ascension

    I've written a program to show the trajectory of a rocket around the Earth with initial conditions that can be manipulated to fix a circular or elliptical orbit. We start with Newton's 2nd law and use the equation a=F/m in freespace (so m can divide out) to get a 2nd order ODE and solve by...
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    Question in complex general equation (2nd order)

    Question: Find the real-valued general solution of the differential equation y''+1y'+1y=0 where primes indicate differentiation with respect to x. (Use the parameters a, b, etc., for undetermined constants in your solution.) My attempt: Use characteristic equation: r^2+r+1=0 I used the...
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    2nd order differential equation

    Homework Statement \epsilony'' - y' = 0 y(0)=0, y(1)= 1 The Attempt at a Solution this s a perturbation problem, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it if we let epsilon = 0 we'll go from 2nd order to first order so it's a boundary layer problem... i think so if that's the...
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    Question concerning basic Diff.Eq. 2nd order trick

    question concerning basic Diff.Eq. 2nd order "trick" Homework Statement First of all, this is NOT for homework. In fact, this is a conceptual question. Now then, let me address my problem by presenting a simple example. Let's say you have a second order equation with initial conditions...
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    Finding the Homogenous Solution to a Variable Coefficients 2nd order ODE

    x y'' + (x + 1) y' = 2 x Solve for y(x). Due to the coefficients being a function of x, I have no idea where to start to find the homogenous solution (Complementary Function). I know how to proceed after this part with the variation of parameters method. I just have no idea where to...
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    2nd order inhomo differential eq.

    Homework Statement y'' = t^2 The Attempt at a Solution The general solution to the homogenous diff equation is y(t)= C1 + tC2 i beliee. The particular solution is where i am having trouble. the guess is of the form \alpha t^2 + \beta t + \gamma ... but taking 2 deriatives leads to...
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    L'Hopitals rule to solve 2nd order DE

    Homework Statement The solution to the initial value problem x y''(x) + 2y'(x) + xy(x) = 0; y(0)=1, y(0)=0 has derivatives of all orders at x=0 (although this is far from obvious). Use L'Hopitals rule to compute the taylor polynomial of degree 2 approximating this solution. Homework...
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    Differentiability of coefficients for 2nd order DE

    Homework Statement Argue that if y=f(x) is a solution to the DE: y'' + p(x) y' + q(x) y = g(x) on the interval (a,b), where p, q, and g are each twice-differentiable, the the fourth derivative of f(x) exists on (a,b). Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Its a general...
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    Given a 2nd order system response, how to get equation ?

    I have a 2nd order system response on a graph. How would I go about this to develop the equation that models this system in s- domain when its graphed in time domain like I have ?
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    Solving a 2nd Order DE: 6 & 7 Mark Questions

    http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7402/30788730.jpg This questions consists of a total of 13 marks - 6 marks for the first order DE - 7 marks for the second order DE I attempted the solution as below. I could solve the second order DE using normal method but when I think again the word...
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    2nd order System steady state error

    Homework Statement The system's closed loop transfer function is given below, find K and \alpha such that the input R(s) = 1/s^2 has no steady state error. (Hint: the system is not a unit feedback system) http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9899/problempr.png Homework Equations not sure...
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    2nd order nonlinear imaginary partial dif eqn

    Hi all, I am having a hard time solving a partial second order differential equation with an imaginary part. I basically took a much bigger function with real and imaginary parts and simplified it down to this. I also know the solution to a similar equation (shown in image). Any help would...
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    Differential equation 2nd order

    i managed to get the indicial equation/recurrence relation, but for parts (a) and (b), I am stuck. i got a0,a1,a2,a3... for part b, but how do i get the polynomial solution? Thanks!
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    2nd order Differential Equation

    I can not how define way to solve these equation x(l-x)y''+4y'+2y=o If anyone can help
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    Differential equation (2nd order)

    I seem to get the correct answer, but when i check my answer on wolfram, there is a 3C(2) instead of just C(2), am I doing something wrong or it doesn't matter if it is a 3C or C?
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    Engineering Voltage/Current of inductor and capactiors 2nd order circuits

    http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~shahriar/eece251_notes/eece251_assignment6.pdf Question 4 on the link. I understand why the top inductor to the left has i = 0A but I don't understand why it has a voltage of 3.816V, can anyone care to explain?
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    Proving Double Inner Product of Derivative of 2nd Order Tensor w/ Another

    Some one please help me how to prove the following: \dot{A}:B + A:\dot{B}=A^{\nabla J}:B+A:B^{\nabla J} A and B are II order tensors and : represents the inner product.
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    Engineering Question on 2nd Order Circuit Assignment: Capacitor Voltage Divider Calculation

    http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~shahriar/eece251_notes/eece251_assignment7.pdf Hey guys, I have a question about my 2nd order circuit assignment. I posted the link to my assignment, and the question I have is question 2. I know that the question saids its a capactior and the circuit diagram itself has...
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    Mathematica MATHEMATICA: NDSolve, 2nd order ODE, Table of IC HELP

    Hi all, I have a 2nd order ODE I am trying to solve using NDSolve. In the ODE there are two constant coefficients and an initial condition that I want to 'vary'; meaning, I have a table of initial conditions with corresponding constant coefficients. It is straight forward to solve the ODE...
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    Runge Kutta for solving 2nd order ODE

    Homework Statement (tw')' + tw = 0 with w(0) = 1, w'(0) = 0 on the interval [0,1] by introducing the new variable v=tw' and considering the resulting first order differential system involving w and v Report your computed solution (wh(1),vh(1)) for h=1/10. Homework Equations The...
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    X Vector in 2nd Order Taylor Series Formula w/ Hessian Matrix

    The formula given by my instructor for a Taylor Series approximation of the second order at point (a,b) is f(a,b) + grad(f(a,b))x + 1/2 H(f(a,b)) x If you recognize this formula, do you know what the x vector is? Note: x is the x-vector, and H represents the Hessian Matrix. Thanks! The...
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    2nd order non homogeneous equation

    Homework Statement y'' + y = -2 Sinx Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution finding the homogeneous solution, is simple; yh(x) = C1 Cos(x) + C2 Sin(x) for the particular solution, I let y = A Cos(x) + B Sin(x) thus, y' = -A Sin(x) + B Cos(x) y'' = -A Cos(x) - B...
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    Particle rotation in galaxy - runge kutta 2nd order help

    Homework Statement Hi everyone, I'm a bit stuck and have been staring at my fortran code all day. For my project this year I'm writing a program to model a spiral galaxy in which gas clouds circulate, collide and produce star formation. I've written code for gravitational acceleration due to...
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    Solve complex 2nd order differential equation

    Homework Statement t''[x] = \frac{2}{t} t'[x]^{2} The Attempt at a Solution This is not your basic 2ODE, since I can't separate the components into y'', y' and y. Help? I've so far tried: \frac{d^{2}t}{dx^{2}}=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt}{dx})^{2} \frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt}{dx})^{2}dx...
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