Solve complex 2nd order differential equation

In summary, the conversation discusses a 2nd order differential equation that cannot be separated into y'', y', and y. Different attempts were made to solve the equation, but it was suggested to write it in the form of ln(t^2/t') = ln(C) and manipulate it into a first-order equation for t. The final solution is t = A/(Rx+j).
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Homework Statement



[tex]t''[x] = \frac{2}{t} t'[x]^{2}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



This is not your basic 2ODE, since I can't separate the components into y'', y' and y.

Help?

I've so far tried:
[tex]\frac{d^{2}t}{dx^{2}}=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt}{dx})^{2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt}{dx})^{2}dx[/tex]

[tex]dt=\frac{2}{t}(\frac{dt^{2}}{dx})[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2}dx=\frac{1}{t}dt[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2}x+k=ln[t]+c[/tex]

[tex]t = e^{k-c}e^{\frac{1}{2}x[/tex]

somehow this doest seem right...
 
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How about writing the equation as

[tex]\frac{t''}{t'} = 2 \frac{t'}{t}?[/tex]
 
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So I then get:

ln(t') +c = 2ln(t) +k ?

2ln(t) - ln(t') -R = [tex]ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = ln(R)[/tex] (my maths is pretty rusty)
 
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tetris11 said:
So I then get:

ln(t') +c = 2ln(t) +k ?

2ln(t) - ln(t') -R = [tex]ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = R[/tex] (my maths is pretty rusty)

Yep, it might be easier to write this in the form

[tex]ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = \ln C,[/tex]

since the next step is to manipulate this into an easy first-order equation for t.
 
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[tex] ln(\frac{t^{2}}{t'}) = ln(R)[/tex]

[tex] t^{2} = R\frac{dt}{dx}[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{1}{t^{2}} dt =\int -R dx [/tex]

[tex]\frac{-1}{t} +k = -Rx +c [/tex]

[tex] t = \frac{A}{Rx+j} [/tex]

thanks dude!
 

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