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Forgot to say in this thread: emotional intelligence is way more important that intellectual intelligence. Whiny, petty, know-it-all brats are worthless. So nananana boo boo.
Pythagorean said:Forgot to say in this thread: emotional intelligence is way more important that intellectual intelligence. Whiny, petty, know-it-all brats are worthless. So nananana boo boo.
chemisttree said:'Sheesh' means the same thing as "geez" or "golly" or "darn" or "eh?" (in Canadian)... as in, "Significant figures people, eh?"
skeptic2 said:Ironically menso/mensa in Spanish means stupid. I wonder what the organization is called in Spanish speaking countries.
Danger said:
Just when I started to like you...
I honestly have never heard the term "significant figures" and don't know what it means. Perhaps it's the same as "significant digits"? (The only "significant figure" that immediately comes to mind is Marilyn Monroe.)
Pythagorean said:Yes, it's the same. Except "sig figs" rhymes, which makes it awesomer.
skeptic2 said:In another discussion here on PF, someone (I don't remember who) mentioned that IQ tests were designed to find those who were not smart enough for the army. (I know, that's a pretty low standard.) The IQ tests are very good at that. But they are not very good at detecting the super intelligent. Does mentally folding a pattern to match an oddly shaped box a few seconds faster really mean you're smarter? True intelligence is a lot more complex than can be tested with a multiple choice test.
My father quit HS so he could join the Army Airborne during WWII. He isn't dim, by any measure. He is over 85 and is attending funerals regularly as WWII veterans are passing away.Kutt said:And you have to be pretty dim to not qualify for the army.
Pythagorean said:Forgot to say in this thread: emotional intelligence is way more important that intellectual intelligence. Whiny, petty, know-it-all brats are worthless. So nananana boo boo.
Flumpster said:Usually, at 130 or 140 someone is moderately gifted, 150 or 160 highly gifted, and above that exceptionally or profoundly gifted.
DragonPetter said:I actually think it is the same psychological phenomenon for people to latch on to IQ scores as for people to believe they are a leo or scorpio.
DragonPetter said:They want to put meaning into arbitrary signs or patterns about something they know nothing about in order to explain something about themselves.
It seems clear to me.operationsres said:What do you mean?
What do you mean? Please share this information with us, I am not aware there was a study on the number of people that had taken online IQ tests that read studies about IQ tests.Clearly your statement doesn't apply to the non-trivial proper subset of all those that have taken IQ tests who have also read these studies.
Evo said:It seems clear to me.
What do you mean?
Evo said:Please share this information with us, I am not aware there was a study on the number of people that had taken online IQ tests that read studies about IQ tests.
operationsres said:I would like to know what these categories are supposed to mean.
There is a limit to that. Although I didn't qualify for military service, I belong to the Legion. A lot of the soldiers and old vets are of at least "normal" intelligence, and some are above normal. (Probably about the same proportion as in civilian society.) What the military wants is compliance. As long as someone is willing to take orders, intelligence is advantageous. Fighter pilots, for instance, know a lot of math and aeronautical engineering.Kutt said:And you have to be pretty dim to not qualify for the army.
That's how I look at it. I've lived by a quote from someone who's identity I can't remember (likely either one of the classical SF writers or Mark Twain). "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."dydxforsn said:I usually suspect people who commit misdeeds of stupidity before I assume bad intent.
It's probably the same as the one that I checked out back in 1975 that was printed in "Reader's Digest". They give an easy one to suck you in, but you have to pay for a supervised test in order to apply for membership.Galteeth said:By the way, out of curiosity, I went to the Mensa website and tried some of their workout tests. The questions were pretty easy.
operationsres said:I would like to know what these categories are supposed to mean.
Hanlon's[/PLAIN] Razor.Danger said:I've lived by a quote from someone who's identity I can't remember (likely either one of the classical SF writers or Mark Twain). "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
operationsres said:What do you mean?
How do you know "they" know nothing about it? There's an abundance of studies on IQ tests. Clearly your statement doesn't apply to the non-trivial proper subset of all those that have taken IQ tests who have also read these studies.
Cerlid said:...Richard P Feynamn for example, who was apparently only quite "intelligent", with his mediocre IQ of 122, and yet changed the very nature of how we think about physics.
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Feynman later scoffed at psychometric testing. In the year 1933, in which he turned 15, he taught himself trigonometry, advanced algebra, infinite series, analytic geometry, and differential and integral calculus. Before entering college, he was experimenting with and re-creating mathematical topics, such as the half-derivative, using his own notation. In high school, he was developing the mathematical intuition behind his Taylor series of mathematical operators.
OmCheeto said:If only half of what wiki claims of Feynman is true, his IQ test was probably put together by someone with a really low IQ:
How many 15 year olds, in the history of the planet, have done what he did?
You're missing the whole psychological matrix he found himself in, which worked to get him to voluntarily push himself to achieve. First off, and foremost, his father raised him to believe it was OK to be observant, curious, and analytical. Most parents discourage their kids from examining radios and machines in the belief they'll just wreck them, and they discourage them from asking too many questions. Feynman's dad was completely supportive of any curiosity he showed and encouraged him to think analytically about any problem he encountered (without ever being pushy about it).OmCheeto said:If only half of what wiki claims of Feynman is true, his IQ test was probably put together by someone with a really low IQ:
How many 15 year olds, in the history of the planet, have done what he did?
The solution to the problem with the shuttle was "fed" to him by the mysterious general who called him up and suggested he poke around into the o-ring situation. He didn't figure it out all by himself. The engineers actually knew all along the o-rings weren't made for these low temperature conditions, but they were over-ridden by management on the go to launch. Management was, in turn, under pressure to perform for the President. Feynman's achievement was mostly in getting them (the engineers) to fess up to him. Feynman explains all this in "What Do You Care What Other People Think?" The General used Feynman as a kind of bloodhound, but he had actually known all along where the body was buried, and he steered Feynman to the gravesite.And his simple analysis of the first shuttle disaster struck me a brilliant. "Snap!"
zoobyshoe said:I really think his I.Q. was 125.
micromass said:You can't be serious. He's one of the smartest people of the previous century. If his IQ really was 125, then IQ tests are severely flawed.
It is probably true that his intelligence was for a huge part due to his father and his surroundings, but that still doesn't mean he's not an insanely smart guy.