Why are physics problem sets so depressing?

In summary: So yes, those tedious exercises are a way to learn, but they are not the only way, and they will not be that much of a burden forever.In summary, physics courses often involve spending a significant amount of time solving tedious mathematical problems, which can be discouraging and may hinder true understanding of the subject. While these exercises may be necessary for learning, they may not be the most effective or enjoyable approach. Instead, a combination of conceptual understanding and practical application could provide a more well-rounded learning experience.
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Michael12345
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When you spend hours and days tediously plugging away at the mathematics of a problem, you lose sight of the actual physics of the problem (in addition to losing sight of what you found interesting about physics in the first place). The problem statements are always innocuous, but as soon as you bite into them, you realize how much of your immediate future will be consumed by this spirit-breaking labor. And at some point, when your focus drifts momentarily, you make a transcriptional error while brainlessly copying one of your many page-long expressions onto the next page, and you end up with the wrong answer, making you feel that not only have these precious days of your youth gone up in smoke forever, but that you're an idiot on top of it.

Is applying the same mathematical techniques, ad nauseam, to only slightly dissimilar problems really learning? This is where most of your time is spent in physics courses: in this thoughtless, calculating space, not accruing experience or forming meaningful associations...just writing and rewriting equations, over and over and over again.

Is there really no better pedagogy?
 
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Michael12345 said:
Is applying the same mathematical techniques, ad nauseam, to only slightly dissimilar problems really learning? This is where most of your time is spent in physics courses: in this thoughtless, calculating space, not accruing experience or forming meaningful associations...just writing and rewriting equations, over and over and over again.

Welcome to Physics. If you know a better way to find out how the world works, there would be no shortage of people who would want to know.
 
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Michael12345 said:
When you spend hours and days tediously plugging away at the mathematics of a problem, you lose sight of the actual physics of the problem (in addition to losing sight of what you found interesting about physics in the first place). The problem statements are always innocuous, but as soon as you bite into them, you realize how much of your immediate future will be consumed by this spirit-breaking labor. And at some point, when your focus drifts momentarily, you make a transcriptional error while brainlessly copying one of your many page-long expressions onto the next page, and you end up with the wrong answer, making you feel that not only have these precious days of your youth gone up in smoke forever, but that you're an idiot on top of it.

Is applying the same mathematical techniques, ad nauseam, to only slightly dissimilar problems really learning? This is where most of your time is spent in physics courses: in this thoughtless, calculating space, not accruing experience or forming meaningful associations...just writing and rewriting equations, over and over and over again.

Is there really no better pedagogy?

Hey Michael12345 and welcome to the forums.

In terms of learning new things for each problem, it's not really clear cut.

If your lecturer is experienced or at the person who assigns problem sets, then they will probably have a good idea of the kinds of problems that really reinforce the learning, but again you might not learn something new: it's just a gamble like anything else in life.

Usually what I have found in my experience is that when you come across a problem you might not have any problem solving it, but you still might learn something really subtle and that one subtle thing has just unlocked a giant piece of the puzzle and given you some real insight.

One thing I would like to suggest if at all possible, is to make a part of your understanding non-mathematical: in other words make some of your understanding be in a way that you can say what's going to another person who doesn't know math or physics but understands a spoken language like english.

If you do this then the symbols will not look like an alien language and the transformations won't look like something that is memorized and then forgotten when its convenient to. It will mean that you will look at symbolic notation and see a story in english that essentially boils down to one or two key ideas that some human long ago (or maybe not so long ago) had and I have no doubt that they had an idea that they were able to convey through speech in conjunction with mathematics.

In terms of spirit-breaking labor, most jobs have parts that really suck and in the end it's going to be your decision of whether the good parts outweight the bad parts enough for you to be willing to work in that job. For some of us, the bad parts outweigh the good and people move on to other things but for others the good parts outweigh the bad and people are content to put up with the bad parts because they enjoy the good.
 
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Michael, from personal experience I can say that those kind of problem sets are typical of the introductory physics courses and gradually lessen, making room for more conceptual and exciting types of exercises (much like the classes get more exciting too).

In a lot of grad classes, you won't even make exercises anymore, and you're expected to learn the material by any way you see fit.
 
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I can understand how frustrating and demotivating it can be to spend hours and days working on physics problem sets. However, it is important to remember that physics is a highly mathematical subject and problem-solving is an essential part of learning and understanding it.

The mathematical techniques used in physics are not just arbitrary calculations, but they are the language through which we can describe and understand the natural world. By applying these techniques to different problems, we are able to build our understanding of how the physical world works and make predictions about its behavior.

It is true that focusing solely on the mathematical aspects of a problem can make it seem tedious and disconnected from the real world. However, it is important to keep in mind that these calculations are ultimately leading to a deeper understanding of the physical principles at play.

Furthermore, it is not just about solving the problem and getting the right answer. The process of working through a problem, even if it involves repeating similar calculations, helps to develop critical thinking skills and problem-solving abilities. This is a valuable skill that can be applied in many areas of life, not just in physics.

As for the pedagogy of teaching physics, there are certainly different approaches that can be taken. However, it is important to strike a balance between theoretical concepts and practical problem-solving. Both are necessary for a complete understanding of physics.

In conclusion, while physics problem sets may seem daunting and monotonous, they are an integral part of learning and understanding the subject. It is important to stay motivated and see the bigger picture of how these calculations contribute to our understanding of the world around us.
 

Related to Why are physics problem sets so depressing?

1. Why are physics problem sets so long and tedious?

Physics problem sets can be long and tedious because they require a deep understanding of complex concepts and equations. They often involve multiple steps and calculations, making them time-consuming to complete.

2. Why do physics problem sets always seem to have a trick or catch?

Physics problem sets often have a trick or catch because they are designed to test your critical thinking skills. They may present a problem in a seemingly straightforward way, but require you to apply multiple concepts or think creatively to solve it.

3. Why are physics problem sets so challenging to solve?

Physics problem sets can be challenging because they require a strong foundation of knowledge in mathematics and physics. They also often involve abstract concepts and require you to apply them in real-world scenarios, which can be difficult to visualize.

4. Why do physics problem sets seem to have no connection to real life?

While some physics problems may seem abstract and unrelated to daily life, they are in fact based on real-world phenomena and applications. The purpose of these problems is to help you develop critical thinking skills and problem-solving abilities that can be applied to various situations.

5. Why do physics problem sets always seem to have a difficult solution?

Physics problem sets often have difficult solutions because they are designed to challenge your understanding and reasoning skills. They may require you to think outside the box and use multiple methods to arrive at the correct answer. However, with practice and a solid understanding of the concepts, these problems can become more manageable.

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