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How do you feel that BP should be punished?
mynameinc said:How do you feel that BP should be punished?
billiards said:Halliburton should also be punished for their involvement, but of course that would be getting a bit too up close and personal.
From everything I have heard, Haliburton did nothing wrong and may have even attempted to persuade the other parties to try to prevent the explosion. Anyway...mynameinc said:When I said BP, I meant the other corporations involved (directly!) as well. :)
KalamMekhar said:Why would you want BP to go bankrupt? That would be the same situation as GM going bankrupt. Just because the corporate end of the company is "corrupt" doesn't mean thousands of people should lose their jobs.
Manslaughter, negligent homicide maybe, I doubt murder.russ_watters said:And people died. That's murder.
It is quite common for manslaughter and neglegent homicide to also be called "3rd degree murder":mheslep said:Manslaughter, negligent homicide maybe, I doubt murder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder#Legal_analysis_of_murderThe following states of mind are recognized as constituting the various forms of "malice aforethought":
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iii. Reckless indifference to an unjustifiably high risk to human life (sometimes described as an "abandoned and malignant heart"),
Under state of mind (iii), an "abandoned and malignant heart", the killing must result from defendant's conduct involving a reckless indifference to human life and a conscious disregard of an unreasonable risk of death or serious bodily injury. An example of this is a 2007 law in California where an individual could be convicted of third-degree murder if he or she kills another person while operating a motor vehicle while being under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or controlled substances.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/ManslaughterThe unjustifiable, inexcusable, and intentional killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice. The unlawful killing of a human being without any deliberation, which may be involuntary, in the commission of a lawful act without due caution and circumspection.
Manslaughter is a distinct crime and is not considered a lesser degree of murder. The essential distinction between the two offenses is that malice aforethought must be present for murder, whereas it must be absent for manslaughter. Manslaughter is not as serious a crime as murder.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/murderMurder: The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse.
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The definition of murder has evolved over several centuries. Under most modern statutes in the United States, murder comes in four varieties: (1) intentional murder; (2) a killing that resulted from the intent to do serious bodily injury; (3) a killing that resulted from a depraved heart or extreme recklessness; and (4) murder committed by an Accomplice during the commission of, attempt of, or flight from certain felonies.
Hmm, yes apparently so.russ_watters said:
Criminally, they are liable. If you make them personally liable, the citizens of the gulf lose because the heads of the company don't have anywhere near as much money as is needed to pay for the damages.SonyAD said:Dissolve corporate personhood. Make the "decision makers" liable for the corporations' actions and inaction.
russ_watters said:Criminally, they are liable. If you make them personally liable, the citizens of the gulf lose because the heads of the company don't have anywhere near as much money as is needed to pay for the damages.
Antiphon said:I'm buying all my gas at BP now. I'm tired of the anti-capitalist thugs of thus world piling on to beat down our corporations and those of our friends and allies. I'm ashamed as an American that my President deigns himself fit to dictate terms to BP. By what authority? Where's the "hey, how can help you plug this leak?". No, BP gets a criminal investigation and all the Lawyers my illustrious professor of a president can muster.
I'm buying only BP gas until a different president reinstalls Churchill's bust in the oval office.
nismaratwork said:I can't tell if you're joking, or drunk...
Antiphon said:I'm buying all my gas at BP now. I'm tired of the anti-capitalist thugs of thus world piling on to beat down our corporations and those of our friends and allies. I'm ashamed as an American that my President deigns himself fit to dictate terms to BP. By what authority? Where's the "hey, how can help you plug this leak?". No, BP gets a criminal investigation and all the Lawyers my illustrious professor of a president can muster.
I'm buying only BP gas until a different president reinstalls Churchill's bust in the oval office.
russ_watters said:Pier 34 in Philadelphia had a night club on it. ... the pier collapsed, killing 3. The owners were convicted of murder ...
KalamMekhar said:You and me both. Have you seen the rewards that the BP visa offers? Insanely good!
Antiphon said:I'm buying all my gas at BP now. I'm tired of the anti-capitalist thugs of thus world piling on to beat down our corporations and those of our friends and allies.
I'm ashamed as an American that my President deigns himself fit to dictate terms to BP. By what authority?
Where's the "hey, how can we help you plug this leak?"
No, BP gets a criminal investigation and all the Lawyers my illustrious professor of a president can muster.
I'm buying only BP gas until a different president reinstalls Churchill's bust in the oval office.
KalamMekhar said:Just because Iran's government is beyond unbelievable, does not make the crude oil any less valuable. One could talk about ethics, but oil is oil, and money is money.
KalamMekhar said:Depends on the day. Usually I will see them at being around 1 cent cheaper on average. We only have BP and Freedom stations here, so not much to compare to. The BP stations have Hot Stuff pizza, so I get a breakfast pizza there before work.
Yeah, thought technically a plead is the same as a conviction, the deal they struck had them off pretty easy in sentencing. It was disappointing.DaveC426913 said:Murder conviction. Meh.
"...They were http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Pier_34_Collapse#Criminal_charges"to 9+ months of house arrest and 1,000 hours of community service..."