What is Pi: Definition and 513 Discussions

The number π () is a mathematical constant. It is defined as the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, and it also has various equivalent definitions. It appears in many formulas in all areas of mathematics and physics. The earliest known use of the Greek letter π to represent the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter was by Welsh mathematician William Jones in 1706. It is approximately equal to 3.14159. It has been represented by the Greek letter "π" since the mid-18th century, and is spelled out as "pi". It is also referred to as Archimedes' constant.Being an irrational number, π cannot be expressed as a common fraction, although fractions such as 22/7 are commonly used to approximate it. Equivalently, its decimal representation never ends and never settles into a permanently repeating pattern. Its decimal (or other base) digits appear to be randomly distributed, and are conjectured to satisfy a specific kind of statistical randomness.
It is known that π is a transcendental number: it is not the root of any polynomial with rational coefficients. The transcendence of π implies that it is impossible to solve the ancient challenge of squaring the circle with a compass and straightedge.
Ancient civilizations, including the Egyptians and Babylonians, required fairly accurate approximations of π for practical computations. Around 250 BC, the Greek mathematician Archimedes created an algorithm to approximate π with arbitrary accuracy. In the 5th century AD, Chinese mathematics approximated π to seven digits, while Indian mathematics made a five-digit approximation, both using geometrical techniques. The first exact formula for π, based on infinite series, was discovered a millennium later, when in the 14th century the Madhava–Leibniz series was discovered in Indian mathematics.The invention of calculus soon led to the calculation of hundreds of digits of π, enough for all practical scientific computations. Nevertheless, in the 20th and 21st centuries, mathematicians and computer scientists have pursued new approaches that, when combined with increasing computational power, extended the decimal representation of π to many trillions of digits. The primary motivation for these computations is as a test case to develop efficient algorithms to calculate numeric series, as well as the quest to break records. The extensive calculations involved have also been used to test supercomputers and high-precision multiplication algorithms.
Because its most elementary definition relates to the circle, π is found in many formulae in trigonometry and geometry, especially those concerning circles, ellipses, and spheres. In more modern mathematical analysis, the number is instead defined using the spectral properties of the real number system, as an eigenvalue or a period, without any reference to geometry. It appears therefore in areas of mathematics and sciences having little to do with geometry of circles, such as number theory and statistics, as well as in almost all areas of physics. The ubiquity of π makes it one of the most widely known mathematical constants—both inside and outside the scientific community. Several books devoted to π have been published, and record-setting calculations of the digits of π often result in news headlines.

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  1. R

    Solve Uncertainty of Pi: Volume of Cylinder

    [SOLVED] uncertainty of pi? does pi have any uncertainty? I am trying to solve the volume of a right circular cylinder with h=2.3±0.1 and radius 0.12±0.05m..i cannot continue cause i do not know if pi has an uncertainty..thanks
  2. R

    Can Arctan(11/2) Be Expressed in Terms of Pi?

    Can anyone express arctan(11/2) in terms of pi. Is there an easy way to do this?
  3. madmike159

    How would i rearange A=2 pi r(r+h) to make h the subject?

    How would i rearange A=2\pi r(r+h) to make h the subject?
  4. I

    Kinetic Energy of Muon in Decay of Pi+ -> Mu+ + Nu_mu

    the mc^2 for a pion and muon are 139.57 MeV and 105.66 MeV respectively. Find the kinetic energy of the muon in its decay from \pi ^+ -> \mu^+ + \nu_{\mu} assuming the neutrino is massless. Here's what I did: Since E^2=p^2c^2+m^2c^4 and that c=1, then E, p and m have same units. E^2 = p^2...
  5. S

    More news from PI: UHECR are likely protons from AGN's

    Dr. A. Chou of the Auger Ultra High Energy Cosmic Ray detector announced today that the last three years of partial information has been analysed to show at the 95% confidence level, UHECR's are caused by protons from Active Galactic Nuclei. Dr. Chou presented his data to the conference on...
  6. G

    Calculating 1.23 + Pi +/- 0.03

    Homework Statement Hello, I'm doing an error analysis problem and I'm not sure how to compute this. What is 1.23 +/- 0.03 + pi Homework Equations I know the equation for the error of two additions. Error = sqrt of ( error in x ^2 + error in y ^ 2 ) The Attempt at a Solution...
  7. L

    A proton emitting and re-absorbing a pi meson

    Homework Statement A proton or a neutron can sometimes "violate" conservation of energy by emitting and then re-absorbing a pi meson, which as a mass of 135 MeV/c^2. This is possible as long as the pi meson is re-absorbed within a shoart enough time \Delta T consistent with the Uncertainty...
  8. L

    Root Loci of Double Integrator: PI & PD Controllers

    Homework Statement For the double integrator described with transfer function G(s) = \frac{1}{s^2} the initial condition is zero. The double integrator is subjected to a unit‐feedback system where the controller is chosen as 1) a PI-controller with C(s) = k_p \left( 1 + \frac{1}{s}...
  9. M

    The Strange Occurrence of Pi Everywhere

    This has probably already been brought up at some point, but does anyone else think it is strange how much pi, the ratio of circumference to diameter, occurs in so much that has nothing to do with circles? I mean, why should an electric potential between two grounds have any significance with...
  10. C

    Quick Question on Uncertainty of PI

    Homework Statement http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/226/8m1celf4.gif On b, why is the pi exp 3.18 +- 0.04 and not .012? Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution
  11. F

    How do I differentiate an equation involving pi?

    [SOLVED] Differentiation involving Pi Homework Statement Differentiate sin(t) + (pi)cos(t) Homework Equations Am I supposed to leave pi alone and just solve for the cos and sin parts? Or do I get f'(x) of pi as well?The Attempt at a Solution I know that f'(x) of sin(t) = cos(t) Now what do...
  12. M

    Understanding Pi: its Role in Symmetry and How it Was Found

    Hi all In almost all the formulae related with symmetry, we use pi. For example, in case of circle, we use pi, and in case of sphere we use 4*pi. e.g. E (electric field)= (q * qo) * 1/(4*pi*eps* r^2) A (circle)= pi*r^2 A (sphere)=4*pi*r^2 My question is: How does pi signify...
  13. J

    Unraveling the Mystery of pi and e

    I know of Euler's equation e^i(pi)-1=0 but i saw another equation that interested me. And I'd like to see if i can prove it somehow and wondering the best way to do so (pi^4+pi^5)^(1/6)=e is this correct? or is this just a close approximation of e? it doesn't sound right to me for it...
  14. E

    Atomic physics: sodium D-line transition missing 2 pi

    Homework Statement Find the wavelength of the sodium transition 3p^{1},^{2}P -> 3s^{1},^{2}S Homework Equations E_{n,l} = -\frac{hcR}{(n - d(n,l))^{2}} d(3,s) = 1.374 d(3,p) = 0.884 \lambda = \frac{\hbar c}{\Delta E} The Attempt at a Solution Plugging the numbers in ain't...
  15. Hans de Vries

    Is there a connection between pi and e in this equation?

    Almost pi ... What is the solution to: \mbox{ $\frac{1}{2}$}\ \mbox{\Huge e}^{\ \frac{1}{2}X^2}\ -\ 2\ \mbox{\Huge e}^{\ 2X^{1/2}}\ =\ \left(\frac{1}{2} \right)^2} Answer: x = 3.1415935362596164657060129064942... Almost pi, the difference is only 2.8 10-7. Now, is this a coincidence or is...
  16. G

    Dimensional Analysis & Buckingham Pi Theory

    What can "Dimensional Analysis Techniques & Buckingham Pi Theory" be used for? GS
  17. T

    Does gravity affect the measurement of pi in non-euclidean geometries?

    I have heard that while pi is known to many millions, even billions of decimal places, gravity makes it both fundamentally and practically impossible to measure pi to more than 10 significant figures. I find this to be a very strage theory, and have never heard of it before. I am also finding...
  18. T

    Ramanujan Misterious PI formula

    Is there any mathematical explanation to the incredible fast converging formula by Ramanujan?: \frac{2\sqrt{2}}{9801} \sum^\infty_{k=0} \frac{(4k)!(1103+26390k)}{(k!)^4 396^{4k}}=\frac{1}{\pi} or simply "ocurred to him" and put it on a paper.
  19. M

    Calculating Pi with Polygons: Is Converting to Degrees a Valid Method?

    i think found a formula to calculate pic (almost). Problem is, it has pi in it. If you are working in radians, it is Ntan(π/N), where N is the number of sides of a polygon that is close to a circle. as n approaches infinity, the function approaches π. Is it cheating if i simply change it to...
  20. C

    Solve Pi: What if Its Remainder is 0?

    I was wondering what would happen if someone found out that Pi had a remainder of 0 down the line, some billion or trillion or whatever decimels away. What implications would this have for practical sciences? All thoughts appreciated, ty.
  21. I

    Is a 30-Letter Password Really Necessary?

    All of you have a happy international Pi day.
  22. Gib Z

    Can a State Legislature Change the Mathematical Value of Pi?

    Quote: "Bill seeks to change value of pi HUNTSVILLE, Ala.[1] NASA engineers and mathematicians in this high-tech city are stunned and infuriated after the Alabama state legistature narrowly passed a law yesterday redefining (pi), a mathematical constant used in the aerospace industry. The...
  23. C

    Chemistry Chem 2: # of pi bonds in a molecule

    Homework Statement How many pi bonds are in the molecule C12H18? Homework Equations I have in my notes the formula (6nPi+2-total # of electrons)/2. The Attempt at a Solution Unfortunately I can't find an explination for this formula in the book and I don't remember what was...
  24. G

    A series for sin az / sin pi z in complex analysis

    Homework Statement Show that \frac{\sin (az)}{\sin (\pi z)} = \frac{2}{\pi} \sum_{n=1}^{+\infty} (-1)^n \frac{n \sin (an)}{z^2 - n^2} for all a such that - \pi < a < \pi Homework Equations None really, we have similar expansions for \pi cot (\pi z) and \pi / \sin (\pi z) , this...
  25. P

    Exploring the Pi Meson: Discovery & Impact on Modern Physics

    Hello everyone, I am a senior physics student doing a paper on the pi meson. The only real website I can find with relevant information towards it is on wikipedia. I don't really want to use that as a source because of the credibility issue which arises with wiki. So I was wondering, (even tried...
  26. J

    How could you tell whether or not a molecule *could* have pi bonds?

    Just by looking at its Lewis structure, how could you tell whether or not a molecule could have pi bonds? Thanks in advance.
  27. L

    Can the First p Digits of Pi Repeat Twice?

    If I take the first p digits of pi, is it possible that what I will have is the first p/2 digits repeated twice? For example, suppose pi = 3.14153141529485729487... and I took the first 10 digits and got 3141531415 which is 31415 repeated twice. Can this happen?
  28. L

    Is 22/7 Greater Than Pi?

    Hi Can someone show me from step one how to show that 22/7 is greater than pi. I don't really know how much I am asking here, but thanks in advance
  29. Apost8

    What is the history of calculating Pi with random objects?

    Probably not very accurate, I admit, but it might be fun to try:http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Pi-by-Throwing-Frozen-Hot-Dogs"
  30. C

    What are Some Non-Repeating Chaotic Decimals in Natural Numbers?

    Natural Numbers - Pi, Log, ... Greetings, I'm far from an expert on math and I wanted to appeal to smarter minds to help compile a list of numbers with non-repeating chaotic decimals: Here's the first 2 (the only 2 I can think of) Pi e I'd also include the order of prime numbers...
  31. T

    Can pi be valued mathematicly?

    in calculus class i have been told that pi is irational, so then i realized that pi is not valued by actually measuring by hand the diameter and perimeter, since it would not be a pure number... 1. so how the hack is pi measured? 2. i want a proof of it being irational.crap, sorry wrong forum...
  32. L

    Orthogonality relations of functions e^(2 pi i n x)

    I know that the functions e^{2 \pi inx} for n \in \mathbb{Z} are a base in the space of functions whith period 1. How do I derive the orthogonality relations for these functions?
  33. V

    GA: Understanding the Mysteries of Pi

    Hello to all, Quick question about Pi … If we can have a finite circle, how can Pi not be decimal ? VE
  34. D

    How to calculate the pI of a peptide?

    How to calculate the pI of a peptide?? Hello everyone, I am hoping someone can shed some light on this question. I know the general idea behind it but i can't seem to put the nail in the coffin. The sequence is ATLDAK and it asks to : Calculate its approximate pI This is what i have so...
  35. marcus

    Pre-Quantum theory talk at PI, Wednesday 11 October

    I just checked the Perimeter site and Smolin had posted the title of his Wednesday talk ===quote=== Speaker: Lee Smolin Title: Could quantum mechanics be an approximation to another, cosmological, theory? Date: Wednesday October 11, 2006, 2:00 PM Abstract: We consider the hypothesis that...
  36. P

    An inequality involving phi() and pi()

    Is this inequality true ever and when? 1/2 \phi{(p_{n}^{\sharp})} < \pi{(p_{n}^{\sharp})}-n
  37. Q

    Strange Result Calculating pi.

    I decided to numerically calculated pi using MATLAb and running a for loop. When I make the steps too small I get absurd quantities for pi. Here see for yourself. When I make the interval higher then about 1e10 i get errors, but 1e6 works ok. Why would this be? Thanks <code> clc...
  38. W

    Should Pi Be 2 x Radius? Analyzing Math Analysis

    We know that pi is circumference over the diameter. But how often do we talk about the diameter in any type of math analysis? Radius is used 99% of the time so I think it should be more appropriate to define pi as circumference over the radius. It would only differ by a factor of two...
  39. V

    Can Hydrogen undergo PI bonding?

    I was wondering about Hydrogen and wether or not it can form Pi bonds.
  40. Math Is Hard

    A better skill than reciting pi digits

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4776181634656145640 Now that's talent!:approve:
  41. Evo

    High school student recites 8,784 digits of pi

    I don't get it "But his mathematical feat won the praise of others, including the math and computer science teacher who got Gaurav interested in it." Why is this considered a "mathematical feat"? He's not actually doing any math. I admit it's an awesome bit of memorization and recitation...
  42. russ_watters

    High School Student Recites 8,784 Digits of Pi

    This is disturbing on so many levels: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-03-16-pi-recitation_x.htm
  43. murshid_islam

    Did You Know March 14th is Pi Day? Celebrate with Us!

    Happy Pi Day! hi wish you all a very happy pi day!:smile:
  44. M

    How Many Digits of Pi Can You Recall?

    Everyone remember that! To how many digits do YOU remember pi?
  45. D

    Calculating Pi: Find Reliable Measurments

    Does anyone know the measurments of a perfect circle? I've been trying to calculate Pi on my own, but I can't find a reliable set of measurments to use. Everything I've found so far has been close, but starts to deviate from the real Pi around the tenth decimal place.
  46. marcus

    Quantum Gravity and the Standard Model (Sundance + PI)

    http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0603022 Quantum Gravity and the Standard Model Sundance O. Bilson-Thompson, Fotini Markopoulou, Lee Smolin 12 pages, 21 figures "We show that a class of background independent models of quantum spacetime have local excitations that can be mapped to the first...
  47. T

    May i know (cos n pi ) with n to infinity is converges or diverges?

    may i know (cos n pi ) with n to infinity is converges or diverges?? may i know (cos n pi ) with n to infinity is converges or diverges??
  48. T

    What is the limit for cos (n pi) and sin (n pi)?

    may i know how to solve [ n^2 cos(n(pi)) ]/ n^2 + 42?? i have divided it by n^2 and get cos(n pi) / (42/n^2) and i can't solve already.pls help what is the limit for cos (n pi) and sin (n pi)??
  49. O

    Why is Area of Circle Calculated by Pi x r^2?

    I have always aked myself the question WHY does the area of a circle calculated by pi x r^2. Why is that? Can anyone illustrate it to me please?
  50. J

    Why is pi = 16 arctan(1/5) - 4 arctan( 1/139)

    Not actually a HW question, but, is there a quick explanation that could show why: \pi = 16\arctan(\frac{1}{5}) - 4\arctan(\frac{1}{239}) I read that somewhere, and it turned out to be true, so I was just wondering how that came about...
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