What is Conservation of energy: Definition and 1000 Discussions

In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. This law, first proposed and tested by Émilie du Châtelet, means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. If one adds up all forms of energy that were released in the explosion, such as the kinetic energy and potential energy of the pieces, as well as heat and sound, one will get the exact decrease of chemical energy in the combustion of the dynamite. Classically, conservation of energy was distinct from conservation of mass; however, special relativity showed that mass is related to energy and vice versa by E = mc2, and science now takes the view that mass-energy as a whole is conserved. Theoretically, this implies that any object with mass can itself be converted to pure energy, and vice versa, though this is believed to be possible only under the most extreme of physical conditions, such as likely existed in the universe very shortly after the Big Bang or when black holes emit Hawking radiation.
Conservation of energy can be rigorously proven by Noether's theorem as a consequence of continuous time translation symmetry; that is, from the fact that the laws of physics do not change over time.
A consequence of the law of conservation of energy is that a perpetual motion machine of the first kind cannot exist, that is to say, no system without an external energy supply can deliver an unlimited amount of energy to its surroundings. For systems which do not have time translation symmetry, it may not be possible to define conservation of energy. Examples include curved spacetimes in general relativity or time crystals in condensed matter physics.

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  1. jisbon

    Conservation of Energy and change in the length of a spring

    Hola! So my first approach to this is use both the conservation of energy and momentum equations since collision between the first two objects are elastic. Let the 3 blocks be a,b and c (from left to right) Does this means the following: whereby ##v_{a} ##= speed of block a after collision...
  2. F

    I Doesn't the superposition in energy violate the conservation of energy

    It is said that for a particle in a box the energy is in a superposition. If indeed that is the case what happens when a measurement is made where does the excess energy go. Of course, that is based on my understanding is that superposition is a real physical and not platonic.
  3. A

    Conservation of energy / work problem

    If someone could advise what I've done wrong it would be much appreciated. How have they eliminated the initial and final for y, and simplify only to y? Also, how did they simplify to a positive 2? What algebraic steps have I missed? Thanks for your help.
  4. S

    Spring is stretched, then attached to a mass, what is its speed at x?

    Dear all, I am back with another Spring problem. I have tried to use the insights I gained from your help last time: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/find-v-x-of-a-mass-suspended-from-a-spring.972942/page-3#post-6190934 I figured I start with calculating the new equilibrium by ## x...
  5. R

    Feynman Lectures vol.1 Chapter 4 Topic 4-2GravitationalPotentialEnergy

    Could anyone explain me in simple words what is being said in this topic from this book (great book and author btw)... i don't understand after it starts talking about perpetual motion and lifting and lowering of weights.please explain in simple words. okay someone said to add more details to my...
  6. olgerm

    I Hubble's law and conservation of energy

    2 bodies that have distance d between them are distancing from each other because Hubbles law. at time t=0 distance between them was d(0) and speed between them was 0. If no force interacts with them then distance is increasing by rate ##\frac{\partial d}{\partial t}=H_0*d## Is it correct...
  7. D

    Finding the amplitude of a vertical spring

    The question asks for a bunch of stuff, but I have everything except part d down. a) Setting the mass of lemons as m1, I used m1*gh = 1/2mv^2, solving for v of the lemons as v = √2gh, where h is the height at which it is dropped. Then, I used COM and had this equation (not 100% sure if right)...
  8. EEristavi

    Energy Conservation in Angular motion / Moment of Inertia

    I write Conservation of Energy: Potential Energy loss(change): U = m g ##\Delta##h = m g (R+r) (1-cos##\alpha##) kinetic Energy gain(change): K = (##\frac {m v^2} 2## + ##\frac {I \omega^2} 2##) + (##\frac {M v_2^2} 2## + ##\frac {I_2 \omega_2^2} 2##) U = K m g (R+r) (1-cos##\alpha##) =...
  9. Lone Wolf

    Conservation of energy for a block on an incline plane

    Let v be the speed of the block and x elongation of the spring beyond the equilibrium point. Initially, v = 0 and x = 0. At the maximum elongation, the block also has v = 0, it has moved a distance equal to x (parallel to the plane) and the variation of height is equal to -x⋅sin(53°). W(FNC) =...
  10. J

    Energy and non-conservative forces

    I feel like it would go on the side of the energy the object has where it starts - an object dropped off a cliff would be modeled U - W = K but an object thrown upwards from ground level would be K - W = U. I am not sure though.
  11. R

    Question About Conservation of Energy, the Cosmological Constant and Dark Energy

    I am confused about the cosmological constant and dark energy. In the most accepted theory, energy is created as the vacuum of space expands. This contravenes the conservation of energy. The law of conservation of energy does not hold in curved spacetime but isn't our universe flat spacetime ...
  12. EEristavi

    Linear Momentum - Bullet hitting pendulum

    Solving using Linear Momentum: M vb2/2 = M g 2L vb = 2√(g L) m v = m v/2 + M (2√(g L) ) v = 4 M √(g L) / m Note: I see from the answers - that this is correct. -------------- Next, I tried to solve it via Energy conservation point of view. M vb2/2 = M g 2L vb = 2√(g L) m v2/2 = m v2/8 + k...
  13. A

    Does gravity defy the law of conservation of energy?

    If we have an object in space (deep space where it is under no other gravitational influence) and we push it a little so that it gains some velocity and after some time comes into the influence of a planet's gravitational field and crashes on it. Where is that energy from the crash coming from...
  14. K

    Hooke's Law vs. Conservation of Energy

    Here are the two questions I want to compare: 1. A student of mass 62 kg stands on an upholstered chair containing springs, each of force constant 2.4 × 103 N/m. If the student is supported equally by six springs, what is the compression of each spring? 2. A 0.20-kg ball attached to a vertical...
  15. Harperchisari

    The energy conservation issue with parallel charged plates with a hole.

    A while back I thought of an issue with parallel charged plates. Imagine this: a set of opposite charged resistive plates with holes in the center. In theory, there is a finite amount of energy required to push a positive charged particle through the hole in the positive plate (in theory it...
  16. S

    Determining position of an object after inelastic collision

    Homework Statement A 39,000 lb truck A and a 3968 lb sports car B collide at an intersection. At the moment of the collision, the truck and the sports car are traveling with speeds vA = 70 mph and vB = 30 mph. Assume that the entire intersection forms a horizontal surface. Letting the line of...
  17. F

    Maximum displacement in mass spring system

    Homework Statement A block is suspended by an ideal spring of the force constant K. If the block is pulled down by applying a constant force F and if maximum displacement of the block from its initial position of rest is X then, find the value of X. Homework Equations mg + F = XK + K(mg/K)...
  18. L

    Potential Energy and Potential -- Systems versus Particles

    When I first learned about these subjects, I did what was intuitive to me and treated particles as if they carried potential energy. I would do this similarly for rigid bodies where I would also treat them as a particles with their body's mass at the center of mass. This wasn't helped by...
  19. solarcat

    Bungee jumping and Conservation of energy

    Homework Statement A person is bungee jumping from the top of a cliff with height H. The un-stretched length of the bungee rope is L. The person comes to a stop just before hitting the ground. The length of the cord is equal to H(amax-g)/(amax+g), where amax is the maximum acceleration upward...
  20. R

    Calculating Speed on an Incline Using the Law of Conservation of Energy

    Homework Statement A ski starts from rest and slides down a 22 o incline 75m long. Coefficient of friction is 0.090. What is the skiers speed at the base of the inlcline? Use energy methods Homework Equations PE=mgh KE=mv2/2 W=Fd The Attempt at a Solution Since mass was not given I did PE=KE...
  21. TheQuestionGuy14

    Conservation of Energy and a billiard ball

    The conservation of energy states energy can never be created nor destroyed, and the amount of energy in a system is always constant. I'm just curious, say if a billiard ball just suddenly started moving without any other object making it do so, (kinetic energy was created), if it also suddenly...
  22. S

    Exploring Conservation of Energy: Ball Dropped in Water

    My question: Consider an isolated system consisted of a ball, and a bucket of water. The ball is released from height, H above a bucket of water. The initial temperature of the water-bucket system and the ball are T1 and T2 respectively. What will be the final temperature of the water after the...
  23. Q

    Understand Logic of Wald & Zoupas' Expression on Conserved Quantities

    Wald and Zoupas discussed the general definition of ``conserved quantities" in a diffeomorphism invariant theory in this work. In Section IV, they gave one expression (33) in the linked article. I cannot really understand the logic of this expression. Would you please help me with this?
  24. M

    Spring conservation of energy problem

    1. A spring is suspended from a ceiling and a 256g mass is attached to it and pulled down to stretch the spring by 18.2cm The mass is released and travels through the equilibirum position with a speed of 0.746m/s. Calculate the force of the spring constant Solution Et= Et' Ee = Ek + Eg 0.5kx^2...
  25. S

    Pendulum Conservation of Energy

    Hi, I have a general question to pendulums. I hope it is ok to post it in this format. Please accept my apologies for my poor English. Homework Statement : As a general Example: I have a Pendulum of length L with Angle Theta as maximum displacement. I know how to solve these problems. Find...
  26. Benjamin Fogiel

    A rocket burns out at an altitude h above the Earth's surface

    Homework Statement A rocket burns out at an altitude h above the Earth's surface. Its speed v0 at burnout exceeds the escape speed vesc appropriate to the burnout altitude. Show that the speed v of the rocket very far from the Earth is given by v=(v02-v2esc)1/2 Homework Equations KEf-KEi=Ui-Uf...
  27. T

    Kinetic energy & Conservation of energy

    Homework Statement You are driving with your car (of total mass: 1.2tonnes) with a speed of v=50km/h, until you see an obstacle. a) What is the kinetic energy of the car? b) When you start to brake, there is still 15m until the obstacle. What must be the size of the friction coefficient (µ)...
  28. J

    Do A and C have same or different KE at the end?

    Homework Statement Please look at the attached screenshot. Homework Equations Assuming the ramp is frictionless, Ei = Ef and thus mgh = KE ( = 1/2mv^2, which isn't really necessary here) The Attempt at a Solution I'm okay with all other examples except for A and C. From the answer template...
  29. L

    Why is/is-not energy conserved in these scenarios?

    Homework Statement PROBLEM A: A small cube of mass m slides down a circular path of radius R cut into a large block of mass M. M rests on a table, and both blocks move without friction. The blocks are initially at rest, and m starts from the top of the path. Find the velocity v of the cube as...
  30. W

    I Conservation of energy in an expanding universe

    I have read that conservation of energy is not a meaningful concept in an expanding universe cosmology. See here http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2010/02/22/energy-is-not-conserved/ However I have also heard the if the net energy os the universe is zero then it can have a vacuum genesis...
  31. Keanthon

    Charging a low voltage battery with a higher one of same Ah

    Let's say both battery have the same charge capacity of 3Ah Battery A has voltage of 3V and B has voltage of 6V. Battery A is completely discharged while B is completely charged. If I charge battery A with battery B, wouldn't B be completely drained because they hold the same amount of charge...
  32. sweet springs

    B Exploring the Concept of Energy in General Relativity

    I would like to understand better about the conservation of energy in GR. Let us think of infinitesimal vacuum volume dr\ sin\theta d\theta d\phi around the star in center. Light emitted from the star hit the bottom surface, r, of the volume. Say violet light photons hit the area 1 photon/1...
  33. DracoMalfoy

    Conservation of Energy: Spring PE: Toy gun on spring

    Homework Statement A toy gun is pointed toward the sky. A Styrofoam ball of mass 10g is at rest against a spring compressed 2cm. The spring is released causing the ball to move upward through the air to a max height of 1m. The air exerts a frictional force of 0.35N on the ball. What is the...
  34. DracoMalfoy

    Spring Potential Energy: Horizontal Spring Problem

    Homework Statement A horizontal spring with a constant of 700N/m is compressed 2cm. A ball of mass 200g is placed in front of the spring. The spring is released. The ball slides along a horizontal track for 10cm while experiencing a frictional force of 0.75N. What is the velocity of the ball at...
  35. D

    Accelerating charged particles and conservation of energy

    Hi I'm wondering how when a charged particle is accelerating it both emits energy in the form of em radiation while also gaining kinetic energy. All of that energy comes from the thing accelerating the charged particle, yeah? Is that necessary, like it is not possible to give a charged particle...
  36. archaic

    Maxwell's wheel and the conservation of energy

    We experimented with the Maxwell's wheel today and at the end we were asked about why does this apparatus stop since there is conservation of energy. I did some research and apparently there is a type of friction called "rolling friction", wikipedia defines it as "the force resisting the motion...
  37. velvetmist

    Oscillators and conservation of energy

    In the equation 7.4, the author is taking v0=√(C/M)*x, and I don't get where does that come from. I would really appreciatte your help, thanks.
  38. J

    Rotational motion: Conservation of energy doesn't work....

    http://www.animations.physics.unsw.edu.au/jw/rotation.htm#rolling I have set up an apparatus similar to what the above link says (the first bit about brass object with shaft). So basically, the shaft is in contact when the brass is first rolling, then it suddenly accelerates when the edge of...
  39. Aleoa

    Uniform circular motion and conservation of energy

    A point mass in an uniform circular motion is continuously changing the velocity direction. To do it, it continuously need force (energy). If we don't give any energy to the system it will anyhow continues its uniform circular motion. How it's possible, who gives the energy ? (It's seems a...
  40. P

    Energy: What will be the minimum ratio of m/M here

    Homework Statement The objects are set free from the scenario shown in the attached image. Their masses have been given and they are under the effect of gravity. The length of the string has been shown in the figure. If the two blocks cross each other, then we need to determine the minimum...
  41. S

    B Assumption of the conservation of energy to Heat Flow

    Recently looked at why temperature flows from high Temperatures to Low temperatures.Essentially it was laid on two Fundamental Assumptions: 1.Energy is conserved in the isolated system 2.Entropy in isolated non quasi static systems will always tend to increase. Lets take a brief look at...
  42. Deepblu

    I Why Bohmian Mechanics needs non-locality?

    I always think about entanglement as pure conservation of energy and conservation of angular momentum. In fact I see that only conservation of energy is non-local, and that quantum objects have nothing to do with non-locality, for example you can entangle 2 atoms that have never interacted with...
  43. J

    Using conservation of energy vs. Newton's laws in a pulley problem

    The problem is attached in the photo. The correct answer, according to the teacher's solution, was obtained using conservation of energy. Initially I tried using Newton's law/kinematics and got the wrong answer. Why didn't this work? Can you ever use Newton's law/kinematics to solve pulley...
  44. D

    Experimental determination of the moment inertia of a sphere

    Hello, I was recently given the task to find experimentally the moment inertia of a sphere. I thought of rolling the sphere down an inclined plane and applying conservation of energy to the sphere. The equations i came up with are: mgh = 1/2mv2 + 1/2Iω2 solving for v^2 we come up with the...
  45. M

    Calculating Spring Constant and Energy Conservation: How Fast Will the Bag Drop?

    1. Problem Statement: A vertical spring has one end attached to the ceiling and a 3kg bag attached to the other one. When the system is at rest, the spring is stretched by 40cm. 1) determine the spring constant. 2) Let the bag drop from a position in which the spring is not deformed. Using the...
  46. WhiteWolf98

    Circular motion in the vertical plane

    Homework Statement A light rod ##AB## of length ##2a## has a particle ##P## of mass ##m## attached to ##B##. The rod is rotating in a vertical plane about a fixed smooth horizontal axis through ##A##. Given that the greatest tension in the rod is ##\frac {9mg}{8}##, find, to the nearest degree...
  47. J

    Law Conservation of Energy: Starting off a solution for 11b

    Homework Statement Homework Equations ΔEsystem + ΔEsurroundings =0 The Attempt at a Solution I have solved 11a and got 5m/s. I can do 11b just by just jumping to Ek = Fs (from the work kinetic energy theorem), but I would like to do it formally from first principles using the Law of...
  48. G

    Energy Confusion (Conservation of Energy?)

    Anyone know if the following statement is true (and why)? "Getting to higher ground would increase his gravitational potential energy, decreasing the effects of non-conservative forces, which would allow him to move easier." CLARIFICATION: "move easier" refers to a lack of friction and not the...
  49. I

    Find the launch speed of a ball in a spring mechanism

    Homework Statement I have a question asking me to find the launch speed of a ball (mass 0.39kg) when released by a spring mechanism made of 2 springs each with force constant 25Nm^-2. they are pulled back 12 cm. the ball is initially at rest.Homework Equations [/B] v^2=u^2+2as f=ma f=kx...
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