What is Conservation of energy: Definition and 1000 Discussions

In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. This law, first proposed and tested by Émilie du Châtelet, means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. If one adds up all forms of energy that were released in the explosion, such as the kinetic energy and potential energy of the pieces, as well as heat and sound, one will get the exact decrease of chemical energy in the combustion of the dynamite. Classically, conservation of energy was distinct from conservation of mass; however, special relativity showed that mass is related to energy and vice versa by E = mc2, and science now takes the view that mass-energy as a whole is conserved. Theoretically, this implies that any object with mass can itself be converted to pure energy, and vice versa, though this is believed to be possible only under the most extreme of physical conditions, such as likely existed in the universe very shortly after the Big Bang or when black holes emit Hawking radiation.
Conservation of energy can be rigorously proven by Noether's theorem as a consequence of continuous time translation symmetry; that is, from the fact that the laws of physics do not change over time.
A consequence of the law of conservation of energy is that a perpetual motion machine of the first kind cannot exist, that is to say, no system without an external energy supply can deliver an unlimited amount of energy to its surroundings. For systems which do not have time translation symmetry, it may not be possible to define conservation of energy. Examples include curved spacetimes in general relativity or time crystals in condensed matter physics.

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  1. Vandenburg

    B How does conservation of energy apply at the nuclear level?

    Electrons rotate around a nucleus for long periods of time. Where does the energy for this motion come from? Ok, I realize that electrons don't actually rotate around the nucleus, like a tiny solar system. But if the electron is wave function, it's still constantly vibrating, constant...
  2. F

    De-excitation of a moving atom with photon emission

    The information I have are the following: ##p^\mu=(E, p, 0, 0)## ##p'^\mu=(E', p'\cos\beta, -p'\sin\beta,0)## ##k^\mu=\tilde{E}(1, \cos\alpha, \sin\alpha, 0)## Where: ##E=\sqrt{M^2+p^2}## ##E'=\sqrt{m^2+p'^2}## Using the conservation of the four-momentum ##p^\mu=p'^\mu+k^\mu##...
  3. Z

    Proving Energy Conservation in a Gravitational System with Multiple Bodies

    Hi all. I'm trying to prove energy conservation in a (maybe) uncommon way. I know there are different ways to do this, but it is asked me to prove it this way and I'm stucked at the end of the proof. I'm considering ##N## bodies moving in a gravitational potential, such that the energy is ##E =...
  4. E

    A Conservation of energy for stationary particle attached to string

    I was going to put this in the homework forums, but on second thoughts it's more conceptual so perhaps here is better. It's about problem 4, chapter 6 of Wald. Part (a) is fine, $$u^a \nabla_a u^b = \frac{\xi^a}{(-\xi^c \xi_c)^{1/2}} \left( \frac{\nabla_a \xi^b}{(-\xi^c \xi_c)^{1/2}} +...
  5. TheGreatDeadOne

    Speed of a hanging rope sliding on a nail (using energy conservation)

    I solved this problem easily using Newton's second law, but I had problems trying to use mechanical energy conservation to solve it. How I solved using Newton's second law: ##\text{(part of the rope that is on the left)}\, m_1=x\rho g,\, \text{(part of the rope that is on the right)}\...
  6. guyvsdcsniper

    Law of Conservation of energy and Wnc

    This is my understanding of the law of conservation of energy and the role non conservative forces factor into it. Could someone confirm if I have this right or explain where I am going wrong if I am? I would appreciate it. With the law of conservation of mechanical energy, ΔKE+ΔPE=0. This...
  7. P

    Conservation of energy in rotating bodies

    The conservation of energy equation is basically GPE is converted to KE of block and KE of cylinder. To get the correct answer, the KE of the cylinder is 1/2mv^2, where m is its mass and v is the velocity of its COM (which is the centre of cylinder). However, I viewed the cylinder as rotating...
  8. P

    Conservation of energy in Gravitation

    Suppose a rocket is moving at radial velocity vr and tangential velocity vt in the Sun's gravitational field. At some time, the rocket enters the gravitational field of Mars (with the above mentioned velocities), and gravitation effects due to the Sun can be ignored. After more time, the rocket...
  9. Y

    Conservation of Energy on Current-Carrying Wire in Magnetic Field

    So force on a current carrying wire = ILxB. If I have a bunch of bar magnets making a uniform magnetic field of strength B, then a 1 meter long wire of 0 ohms carrying 1 Amp, the force on that wire is (1)(1)xB = 1B. If I let that force move the wire for a time T, let's assume the wire moved a...
  10. J

    I Quantum Tunneling in the Sun and Conservation of Energy

    Hi, In my textbook it says that if you consider the electrostatic repulsive barrier that protons in the Sun need to overcome in order to get into the range of the strong nuclear force to fuse together then it fails to fully account for the measured power output of the Sun. It says that the...
  11. Leo Liu

    Conservation of energy in a CM system moving at constant velocity

    My book uses ##1/2m_1v_{1c}^2+1/2m_2v_{2c}^2=1/2m_1v_{1c}'^2+1/2m_2v_{2c}'^2## to show that the angles of deflection of the collision between two particles are the same in the centre of mass frame. However, I am doubtful that one can apply the conservation of energy to a "moving" system because...
  12. O

    Law of Conservation of Energy Problem: Trampoline

    For a) I did Eg = Ee + Eg and tried to solve for x. I got 5.4 m but I think this is wrong. I have no idea how to do the rest, please help :')
  13. V

    Find the tension of a rope with a mass and spring attached

    I'm having trouble with this problem, I think I solved it but I don't know if what I did is right... At first when the velocity is 0 and the spring is at its natural length, there's just gravitational potential energy, so $$E_i=mgh$$ And then, when the mass is released and then reaches its...
  14. O

    Law of Conservation of Energy Problem (kicking a soccer ball)

    a) So far, I have equated Ek to Eg to solve for h. 1/2(m)(27)^2 = m(9.8)h. I haven't taken the angle into consideration. I'm not sure if I have to use the x or y component. I got my answer to be 37m but again I don't believe this is correct. b) I did Ek = Eg + Ek. 1/2(m)(27)^2 = m(9.8)(3.5) +...
  15. Qwet

    I Conservation of energy in general relativity

    Hello. I have a question about the law of energy conservation in GR. As time is inhmogeneous, we don't have energy-momentum 4-vector which would be preserved during system's dynamical change. It is only possible to define 4-vector locally. And next, the problem regarding how to sum this vectors...
  16. lomidrevo

    I Is Energy an Illusion in the Many-Worlds Interpretation?

    I think I have a rough idea about it, but I am not sure whether it is correct. At least I feel that my understanding is a bit vague. Here it is: Globally (I mean across all worlds), the energy is conserved because the universal wavefunction evolves strictly according to Schrodinger equation...
  17. wcjy

    Conservation of energy, centripetal acceleration, kinematics

    (a) Using COE, $$mgh = 0.5mv^2 + 0.5I\omega^2$$ I solved it, where $$\omega = 112 rad/s$$ (b) This is the part where I have question or problem. I saw my course mate working and he start of with finding centripetal acceleration. $$a_c = \frac{v^2}{r} = \frac{(r_0\omega)^2}{R_0}$$ Why isn't it...
  18. amjad-sh

    Diffraction of light and conservation of energy.

    Suppose that we shined a source of light on a wall with infinitismal small opening. As the opening is infinitismly small, only one ray of light will pass through the opening ( suppose it has an intensity ##I_0##) and this ray of light will diffract into an infinite number of light rays with the...
  19. T

    Resonance vs. Conservation of Energy

    I can solve the equation for a damped oscillator with a forcing function. I can then plot the Kinetic and Potential Energy. They will be out of phase, of course (KE peaking when PE is zero, and vice versa) And we know that when the input frequency is close to the natural frequency, the system...
  20. N

    I Conservation of energy in Everett's MWI

    The question seems similar to the one asked here, https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/energy-in-everetts-many-worlds-interpretation.966266/ but since there didn't seem to be an answer I am asking it again in a slightly different form. I was watching a youtube video where Sean Carroll...
  21. E

    Conservation of Energy Problem (Power)

    Hello there, I was trying to solve this problem. I have no problem with part A and C. But in part B, my guidebook arrived with different answer. Can anybody point out what my mistake is? I am using the same method as the elevator motor problem which states : "A 650-kg elevator starts from rest...
  22. wcjy

    Rotational dynamics and the conservation of energy

    I = Icm + mr^2 I = 0.5 mr^2 + mr^2 I= 3/2 mr^2 By COE, mgh = 0.5(3/2 mr^2)(w^2) g(2r) = 3/4(r^2)(w^2) 8g/3 = rw^2 = v^2 / r v = sqrt( 8gr/3) v=0.511m/s ans: v=0.79m/s
  23. wcjy

    Kinematics, Conservation of energy, momentum

    m1 + m2 = 8 COE 0.5(m1)(u1)^2 + (m1)(g)(30) + 0.5(m2)(u2)^2 + (m2)(g)(30) = 0.5(m1)(v1)^2 + 0.5(m2)(v2)^2 + (m2)(g)(16) Can you check if my eqn is correct? And can you advise what to do after this? I wanted to do COLM but i don't know what is the initial part.
  24. wcjy

    Momentum and Conservation of energy

    When A hits B, COLM mV = -mVa + 2mVb V = 2Vb - Va COKE 0.5mv^2 = 0.5mVa^2 + 0.5(2m)Vb^2 V^2 = Va^2 + 2Vb^2 When B hits C COLM 2mVb=4mVc Vc = 0.5Vb COE 0.5(2m)Vb^2 = 0.5kx^2 +0.5(4m)Vc^2 sub Vc = 0.5b mVb^2 = KX^2 After that I am stuck, cause i can't find V in terms of Vb only
  25. A

    Conservation of Energy Along an Incline with Friction

    There are two nonconservative forces in this situation, the work done by the person and the work done by friction - they are the only sources of work that change the total mechanical energy of the mass-Earth system. The initial energy (assuming gravitational potential energy is initially 0) is...
  26. Haorong Wu

    I Does vacuum excitation violate the conservation of energy?

    Hi, there. I am reading the article Relativistic quantum optics: The relativistic invariance of the light-matter interaction models by Eduardo Martin-Martinez el al (2018). Here he calculate the transition probability of a vacuum excitation for a detector. Suppose there is a lab where the...
  27. R

    Variable friction on an inclined plane and maximum velocity

    This problem was from the chapter on Work and Energy so, I thought of using the principle of conservation of mechanical energy. Clearly, the potential energy of the block decreases by mgh (assuming the block has mass m). This energy should have been converted to kinetic energy, but it clearly...
  28. Vivek98phyboy

    What am I Missing? Solving Conservation of Energy

    By solving conservation of energy, I was able to find the linear velocity which is [10g(H-R-Rsin(theta))/7]^½ and by differentiating this with respect to "t", I arrived at the tangential acceleration value of -(5gcos(theta))/7 and found it to be in agreement with the solution provided in the...
  29. T

    Conservation of energy problem: Two masses, a pulley and an incline

    If M moves ##x## along the plane, her height variation in ##x \cos(\alpha)##, and, but I don't know how to find the variation of the height of ##m##
  30. AlonZ

    Mechanics- Conservation of energy

    My, supposedly rational thought is that if the pendulum will drop from a height higher than the top of the loop's height, by the law of conservation of energy, it'll have enough velocity to complete the loop. The teacher's final result shows a different approach. Am I right? Wrong? Thanks
  31. W

    I Conservation of energy in cosmology

    Models like Vilenkin's tunnelling from nothing model described here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0370269382908668 claim the universe came from "nothing". It is claimed this doesn't violate any conservation laws because the negative energy of gravity and the positive...
  32. J

    Conservation of energy in transformers

    This question is given as an exercise in my book. I can't figure out whether this is a poorly worded question or if I misunderstand. The answer I can come up with is that power is dissipated over the load so more power is needed to be supplied by the ac source. This seems too hand-wavy to me...
  33. L

    Law of Conservation of Energy Proof

    Although I am not too sure how to answer this quesion I have tried below. I realize that an electromotive force is a supply voltage, the energy transferred per unit charge when one type of energy is converted into electrical energy. However, EMF is not actually a force. It is usually measured...
  34. E

    Is conservation of energy derived from the work energy theorem?

    To my mind, there are two distinct approaches to energy problems that different authors tend to use, and I wondered whether either is more fundamental than the other. The first is variations on the work energy theorem, and the second consists of defining a system boundary and setting the change...
  35. domingoleung

    How to Calculate Bullet Velocity After Penetrating a Block

    Change in KE = Change in thermal energy 0.5 * (6)* vblock^2 = 0.4 * 6 * 9.81* 0.1 vblock = 0.885 By Conservation of Momentum, (0.05)(854) = (0.05)*vbu + (6)(0.885)I am not sure whether Change in KE = Change in thermal energy is true coz there should be a change in internal energy of the block...
  36. J

    Influence of vacuum in the Conservation of energy

    I probably haven’t thought this through. A sideview of a closed container filled with air consisting of two vertical cylinders (with radius ##r_1## and ##r_2##) are connected by two horizontal tubes. The container is separated by a small and a large lid (red) that are circular and can move up...
  37. t2r

    Conservation of Energy: Why are Normal Forces Zero?

    Hello everyone, someone could explain me please, why the work of the normals forces are 0 ? He used with conservation energy equations. How should I refer to the displacement point ? Thx everyone !
  38. J

    B Redshift & Energy Conservation: Questions Answered

    Hi, I have read over several threads already on this and have a few questions if someone could please answer that would be great: 1) The threads seem to suggest that energy is not conserved (or at least it isn't a requirement) on the scale of the universe. Why does it not have to be conserved...
  39. A

    Conservation of energy given the Earth's rotation?

    So Earth and everything is spinning around at 1000mph at the equator. From our perspective we are at a standstill. But let's say a fighter jets flies east to West against Earth at same speed, so now relative to someone in space, the Earth spins but the plane is at a standstill. Wouldn't that...
  40. Luke Tan

    Conservation of Energy of the Center of Mass

    In classical mechanics, the energy of a system of particles (say with 2 particles) in an external field is given by $$E=\frac{1}{2}m_1|\vec{v}_1|^2+\frac{1}{2}m_2|\vec{v}_2|^2+V(\vec{r}_1)+V(\vec{r}_2)+V'(|\vec{r}_2-\vec{r}_1|)$$ Where V is the potential energy of the external field, and V' is...
  41. PHYSICSSSTUDENT

    Conservation of energy in a bullet-wooden block impact system

    Suppose a bullet with high speed strike a wooden block and move together after collision. We know there is loss in total KE of bullet-wooden block system. The question is, if the part of the loss in KE of the bullet is transfer to heat energy, HOW to prove the CONSERVATION of ENERGY in this...
  42. T

    Conservation of Energy of a Spring with Weight Added

    I'm all messed up on this problem. I see you can get the solution (74cm, as listed in the back of the book) by simply setting mgh=1/2kx^2, saying that h=x, and then adding 15 cm to that since that's the original length of the spring. This is the solved solution I was given. But now I think...
  43. K

    I Conservation of Energy Momentum Tensor

    Unfortunetly, I found across the web only the case where there's no source, in which case ##\partial_\alpha T^{\alpha \beta} = 0##. I'm considering Minkowski space with Minkowski coordinates here. When there's source, is it true that ##\partial_\alpha (T^{\alpha \beta}) = 0## or is it ##\int...
  44. Alexandra Fabiello

    Using the Conservation of Energy to find the Radius of a Bowl

    v1 = 0 m/s v2 = 2.5 m/s y1 - y2 = distance a quarter of the way around the bowl (since we're neglecting friction) mass can be factored out, so it isn't needed, and some simplifying and the like gets this formula: v22 = v12 + 2g(y1 - y2) so 2.52 = 0 + 2(9.8)(y) 6.25 = 19.6y y = 0.318877551 m *...
  45. S

    Arrow strike, Avg force, Conservation of energy

    The arrow is following projectile motion to the target when released from an archer's bow. v vertical = 10ms^-1 v horizontal = 50 ms^-1 resultant v = √2600 mass of arrow = 20*10^-3 I attempted to use F avg = mΔv/Δt to calcualte the average force where Δt = 5*10^-3 /...
  46. S

    Conservation of energy when placing two inductors next to each other

    This is more like a theoretical question of my own than actual homework. Say there is a circuit with a current source and an inductor. There is a current ##i(t)=at## going through the inductor. We now place a new circuit with an inductor and a resistor next to it. The current ##i(t)## causes a...
  47. S

    Conservation of energy: a mass and pulley system

    The solution is an application of the law of conservation of energy. Start with equation (1). The masses are in equilibrium and are not accelerating. This implies that ΔK = 0, because the kinetic energy will not change without acceleration. Thus, we are left to find equation (2) in terms of θ...
  48. entropy1

    I Conservation of energy and measurement problem

    If we have a two dimensional measurementbasis, then we have two possible outcomes of the measurement. Now I figured: considering the law of conservation of energy, if one particle goes in, one and only one can come out. So outcome "both results simultaneously" cannot happen, for that would...
  49. TheQuestionGuy14

    B Does a field's vacuum density violate conservation of energy?

    The vacuum density, or the zero point energy, of a field, doesn't change as space expands, it remains constant. But, aren't particles and virtual particles just fluctuations of these fields? Meaning as space expands, more and more particles are being created, violating conservation of energy?
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