Why would we ignore initial angular velocity in equation?

In summary: Then you get the first form.In summary, a 1.15-kg grinding wheel with a diameter of 22.0 cm and spinning counterclockwise at a rate of 20.0 revolutions per second takes 80.0 seconds to come to a rest with a constant angular acceleration of -1.57 rad/s2. It makes 800 revolutions during this time. The equations used are ωf=ωo+αt and θ=θ0+ωot+0.5αt2. When solving for the number of revolutions, the second form of the equation θ=ωf t-0.5αt2 was used, but by considering time in reverse, the first
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Homework Statement


A 1.15-kg grinding wheel 22.0 cm in diameter is spinning counterclockwise at a rate of 20.0 revolutions per second. When the power to the grinder is turned off, the grinding wheel slows with constant angular acceleration and takes 80.0 s to come to a rest.
(a) What was the angular acceleration (in rad/s2) of the grinding wheel as it came to rest if we take a counterclockwise rotation as positive?
A: -1.57 rad/s2
(b) How many revolutions did the wheel make during the time it was coming to rest?
A: 800 revolutions

Homework Equations


ωfo+αt
θ=θ0ot+0.5αt2

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) [tex]
\omega_f=\omega_0+\alpha t\\
0 = (20 * 2\pi) + 80\alpha\\
\alpha = -\frac{20 * 2\pi}{80}\\
\alpha = -1.57 \frac{\texttt{rad}}{\texttt{s}^2}
[/tex]
(b) This is where I am confused. Why do we assume w0=0 to get the answer?[tex]
\theta = \omega_0 t + \frac{1}{2} t^2 \alpha\\
\theta = \frac{1}{2} t^2 \alpha\\
\theta = \frac{1}{2} (80)^2 (\frac{-1.57}{2\pi})\\
\theta = 800 \ \texttt{revolutions}
[/tex]
 
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There are two forms of that equation, ##\theta=\omega_0 t+\frac 12 \alpha t^2## or ##\theta=\omega_f t-\frac 12 \alpha t^2##.
In the present case, it would have been natural to use the second form. Note that alpha as calculated is negative.
But by considering time in reverse you can swap ##\omega_0## and ##\omega_f## and negate the signs on theta and alpha.
 
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Related to Why would we ignore initial angular velocity in equation?

1. Why is initial angular velocity ignored in equations?

Initial angular velocity is often ignored in equations because it is assumed to be zero in most cases. This is because most systems start from rest, meaning they have no initial angular velocity. Additionally, even if there is an initial angular velocity, it is often negligible compared to other factors in the system.

2. Is it always safe to ignore initial angular velocity in equations?

No, it is not always safe to ignore initial angular velocity in equations. In some cases, the initial angular velocity may be significant and ignoring it can lead to inaccurate results. It is important to carefully consider all factors in a system before deciding to ignore initial angular velocity in equations.

3. What are the consequences of ignoring initial angular velocity in equations?

The consequences of ignoring initial angular velocity in equations can vary depending on the system and the accuracy required. In some cases, it may not have a significant impact on the results, but in others, it can lead to errors and inaccuracies. It is always best to carefully consider all factors and decide whether or not it is safe to ignore initial angular velocity in equations.

4. Can initial angular velocity ever be non-zero in a system?

Yes, initial angular velocity can be non-zero in a system. This can occur when the system is not starting from rest, or when there are external forces or torques acting on the system that cause it to have an initial angular velocity. In these cases, it may not be safe to ignore initial angular velocity in equations.

5. How can I determine if it is safe to ignore initial angular velocity in equations?

The best way to determine if it is safe to ignore initial angular velocity in equations is to carefully analyze the system and consider all factors. If the initial angular velocity is small compared to other factors and does not significantly impact the results, it may be safe to ignore it. However, if there is uncertainty or the initial angular velocity is significant, it is best to include it in the equations for more accurate results.

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