Why taking angle 110 instead of 70 for finding the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components?

In summary: That's because, according to the diagram, if you use the 70^o angle, the \cos 70^o result will be projected along the negative x-axis. But if you use the 110^o angle, the \cos 110^o result is already negative so it takes care of the negative sign automatically.
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why taking angle 110 instead of 70 for finding the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components?
Relevant Equations
F2x = 150.cos 110 = - 51.30, F2y = 150.sin 110 = 140.95
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F1x = 120. Cos 300 = 103.92 ; F1y = 120.sin 300 = 60N
F2x = 150.cos 110 = - 51.30, F2y = 150.sin 110 = 140.95

why taking angle 110 instead of 70 for finding the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components?
 
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If you take angle ##70°## insteady of ##110°##, do you get negative value for ##F_{2x}## component (as it should be according to the diagram)?
 
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If you are interested in just the magnitude of ##F_{2}## it doesn't matter which angle you take. That's because
##F_2=\sqrt{F_2^2\sin^2(\theta)+F_2^2\cos^2(\theta)}.## Note that ##\cos(110^o)=-\cos(70^o)## and when you square, the negative sign drops out.
 
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I can't let this go. The diagram is very misleading. ?:)

The diagram shows the angular difference between [itex] F_1 [/itex] and [itex] F_2 [/itex] as [itex] 110^o [/itex]. But that doesn't make any sense. That would make the total angle from the positive x-axis to the negative x-axis as [itex] 210^o [/itex]. But that's impossible, since the x-axis is a straight line, and all angles that span a straight line are [itex] 180^o [/itex]. So first and foremost, that needs to be fixed.

From here on out, I'm assuming that the [itex] 110^o [/itex] angle spans from the positive x-axis to [itex] F_2 [/itex] (not [itex] F_1 [/itex] to [itex] F_2 [/itex] as is it shown in the original post).

From there, just follow @kuruman's and @lomidrevo's advice. If you use the [itex] 70^o [/itex] angle, which is the angle with respect to the negative x-axis, then the [itex] \cos 70^o [/itex] will be projected along the negative x-axis. That's a tidbit you need to keep in the back of your mind when interpreting the result. However, if you use the [itex] 110^o [/itex] angle, which is the angle with respect to the positive x-axis, the [itex] \cos 110^o [/itex]result is already negative so it takes care of the negative sign automatically.
 
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collinsmark said:
From here on out, I'm assuming that the ##110^o## angle spans from the positive x-axis to ## F_2## (not ##F_1## to ##F_2## as is it shown in the original post).
That was my interpretation of the situation. My reading was that OP was questioning whether the difference between ##\cos(70^o)## and ##\cos(110^o)## is more than just an algebraic sign.
 

Related to Why taking angle 110 instead of 70 for finding the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components?

What is the significance of taking an angle of 110 degrees instead of 70 degrees when finding the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components?

The angle of 110 degrees is used because it accounts for both the direction and magnitude of F2 in the X and Y components. This allows for a more accurate representation of the force in both directions.

How does taking an angle of 110 degrees affect the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components?

Taking an angle of 110 degrees allows for a more precise calculation of the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components. This angle takes into account the direction and magnitude of the force, resulting in a more accurate measurement.

Why is it necessary to use the angle of 110 degrees specifically?

The angle of 110 degrees is often used because it is a standard angle for vector calculations. It also provides a balance between the horizontal and vertical components of the force, making it a more accurate representation of the overall force.

What would happen if an angle of 70 degrees was used instead of 110 degrees?

If an angle of 70 degrees was used, the calculated magnitude of F2 in X and Y components would be lower than the actual magnitude. This is because the angle of 70 degrees does not take into account the full force in both directions.

Are there any other angles that can be used instead of 110 degrees for finding the magnitude of F2 in X and Y components?

Yes, there are other angles that can be used, but they may not provide as accurate of a measurement. For example, an angle of 45 degrees would only take into account the horizontal component of the force, while an angle of 135 degrees would only consider the vertical component.

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