Why does work have the wrong units?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a particle moving on a frictionless horizontal table attached to a massless string. The work done by pulling the string as the radius of the particle's circular motion decreases is calculated, but there is a mistake in the integration due to not accounting for the varying angular velocity. The correct approach is to find the force as a function of the changing radius and then integrate.
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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m is moving on a frictionless horizontal table and is attached to a massless string that passes through a tiny hole of negligible radius in the table, and I am holding the other end of the string underneath the table. Initially the particle is moving in a circle of radius r0 with angular velocity ω0, but I now pull the string down until the radius reaches r. Assuming that I pull the string so slowly that we can approximate the particle’s path by a circle of slowly shrinking radius, calculate the work I did by pulling the string, and compare it to your answer in (5.1).

Homework Equations


W = ∫F⋅dr
Answer for KE is [(mωo2ro2)/2]((ro/r)2-1)

The Attempt at a Solution


W = ∫F⋅dr = ∫mv2/r dr= ∫mω2rdr = (mω2/2)(r2-ro2)

From conservation of angular momentum I get that ω = (ωoro2)/r. replacing this with the result gives (mωo2ro4)/2[((ro/r)2-1)] and the units don't check out. Shouldn't this be the same as KE?
 
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Vitani11 said:
From conservation of angular momentum I get that ω = (ωoro2)/r.
This equation is not dimensionally consistent and thus cannot be true.
 
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Oh that is v not omega. Crap, stupid mistakes. I got (mωo2ro4)/2r2[(1-(ro/r)2)]
 
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To check this answer I set it equal to KE to see if it turned to 0 but instead it gave me that r=-ro which isn't true. Is this answer still correct or is this not a good way to check your answer?
 
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Vitani11 said:
To check this answer I set it equal to KE to see if it turned to 0 but instead it gave me that r=-ro which isn't true. Is this answer still correct or is this not a good way to check your answer?

The problem is in here is ##F## is not constant as you can see ##F=\frac {mv^2} {r}## but here ##v## depends on ##r## (angular momentum conservation).So you have to find first ##F(r)##
 
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Vitani11 said:
∫mω2rdr = (mω2/2)(rr02)
Please post your steps there. How do you handle the fact that r and ω are both varying?
 
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haruspex said:
Please post your steps there. How do you handle the fact that r and ω are both varying?
Typo. It should have been W = ∫F⋅dr = ∫mv2/r dr= ∫mω2rdr = (mω2/2)(r2-ro2)
 
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Vitani11 said:
Typo. It should have been W = ∫F⋅dr = ∫mv2/r dr= ∫mω2rdr = (mω2/2)(r2-ro2)
But that is wrong. In the integration you treated ω as constant.
 
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Got it, thanks
 

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