Why does (13;1)(4;2)(48;1)(44;1)(40;1) fail in calculating a pair in Poker?

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In summary, the correct way to calculate the number of two pair hands is to use the formula \left(\begin{array}{cc}13\\1\end{array}\right \left(\begin{array}{cc}4\\2\end{array}\right (12;3)(4;1)(4;1)(4;1). However, using (13;1)(4;2)(48;1)(44;1)(40;1) fails because it treats hands like QQJT9 and QQ9TJ as two different hands, while they should be counted as the same hand. This approach is correct if counting permutations, but incorrect if counting combinations. Additionally, the same issue arises when calculating two
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The correct way is [tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc}13\\1\end{array}\right \left(\begin{array}{cc}4\\2\end{array}\right [/tex](12;3)(4;1)(4;1)(4;1)

But why does (13;1)(4;2)(48;1)(44;1)(40;1) fail? I would have thought that after you get the two that match there are 48 left to choose from that don't macht, and 44 that don't macht, and so on.
 
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Your approach treats QQJT9 and QQ9TJ as two different hands.

That's fine if you're counting permutations instead of combinations... but if you meant to count permutations, then you didn't count hands like JT9QQ... so you're wrong either way.
 
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Hurkyl said:
Your approach treats QQJT9 and QQ9TJ as two different hands.

That's fine if you're counting permutations instead of combinations... but if you meant to count permutations, then you didn't count hands like JT9QQ... so you're wrong either way.

And so then calculating two pair I did (13;2)(4;2)(4;2)(48;1) and subtracted Full Houses. I suppose this failed for the same reason?
 

Related to Why does (13;1)(4;2)(48;1)(44;1)(40;1) fail in calculating a pair in Poker?

1. How is a pair calculated in poker?

A pair in poker is calculated by looking at the two cards in a player's hand and determining if they are the same value. This means that both cards must have the same number or letter, such as two kings or two sixes. The suit of the cards does not matter when calculating a pair.

2. Can a pair be made with any two cards in poker?

No, a pair can only be made with two cards of the same value. This means that a player cannot have a pair with a king and a queen, as they are different values. However, any two cards can potentially make a pair, from aces to twos.

3. How do pairs affect the strength of a poker hand?

In most poker games, a pair is considered a relatively weak hand. It is ranked lower than two pairs, three of a kind, and other higher value hands. However, in some variations of poker, such as Texas Hold'em, a pair can still be a strong hand if no other players have a higher ranked hand.

4. Can multiple players have the same pair in a game of poker?

Yes, it is possible for multiple players to have the same pair in a game of poker. For example, two players may both have a pair of sevens. In this case, the winner would be determined by the highest card in their hand that is not part of the pair (known as the kicker).

5. How often do pairs occur in a game of poker?

The frequency of pairs in a game of poker will vary depending on the specific game being played and the number of players involved. In general, pairs are a common hand in poker and can occur multiple times in a single game. However, the likelihood of getting a pair decreases as the value of the pair increases (e.g. a pair of aces is less likely than a pair of fours).

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