Very strange permutation problem

In summary, the conversation discusses the product of permutation and the use of \tau in the permutation "matrix". The questioner is having difficulty understanding why there are new elements in \sigma and if \tau is a transposition or any permutation. The responder explains that \tau is any permutation and provides a link for more information about permutations. They also mention that the use of \tau in the permutation "matrix" is not a strange problem and is a fundamental fact about permutations.
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product of permutation

The Attempt at a Solution


i have difficulty understanding this q.
why in [itex]\sigma[/itex] there are b1b2...bn new element?
why can i insert [itex]\tau[/itex] in the permutation "matrix"?[itex]\tau[/itex]itself is a "matrix"??
 

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It's not a matrix. It is the two-line notation for a permutation. See here for more details:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation

This is not a strange problem; in fact it's one of the most standard and fundamental facts about permutations.
 
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jbunniii said:
It's not a matrix. It is the two-line notation for a permutation. See here for more details:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation

This is not a strange problem; in fact it's one of the most standard and fundamental facts about permutations.

i know this is not a matrix that's why i write "matrix".
help!
 
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is [itex]\tau[/itex] a transposition or any permutation?
 
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betty2301 said:
is [itex]\tau[/itex] a transposition or any permutation?

[itex]\tau[/itex] can be any permutation. (That is exactly what [itex]\forall \tau \in S_n[/itex] means.)

Remember that [itex]\tau \sigma \tau^{-1}[/itex] is a composition of three permutations, in the following order: first [itex]\tau^{-1}[/itex], then [itex]\sigma[/itex], then [itex]\tau[/itex]. If the "input" set of elements is [itex]\tau(a_1), ..., \tau(a_n)[/itex], then just follow what each stage of the composition does to these elements. Try not to overthink it - this is actually a very easy problem.
 
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