Using stokes' or divergence theorem to solve integral

[leroyjenkens]

Homework Statement

Use either Stokes' theorem or the divergence theorem to evaluate this integral in the easiest possible way.

∫∫V [itex]\cdot[/itex]ndσ over the closed surface of the tin can bounded by x²+y²=9, z = 0, z = 5, if V = 2xyi - y²j + (z + xy)k

The bolded letters are vectors.

Homework Equations

∫∫(∇ xV) [itex]\cdot[/itex] ndσ = ∫V [itex]\cdot[/itex]dr Stokes' theorem

∫∫∫∇ [itex]\cdot[/itex]Vdτ = ∫∫V [itex]\cdot[/itex]ndσ Divergence theorem

The Attempt at a Solution

So what I did was use the divergence theorem to turn this into a volume integral. I did the ∇xV to get 2y-2y+1. But here's where I'm stuck. I can input the formula for the volume of a cylinder, right? Is that dτ? I have to integrate with respect to τ. So if 2y-2y+1 = 1, then I'm left with τ after I integrate, and is τ just ∏r²h?

Thanks

 

[vela]

You mean you calculated ##\nabla\cdot \vec{V}##, not the curl. ##d\tau## is the volume element. For cartesian coordinates, it's equal to ##d\tau = dx\,dy\,dz##. The fact that you're integrating over a cylindrical volume is reflected in the limits. If I were you, however, I'd switch to cylindrical coordinates, where ##d\tau = r\,dr\,d\theta\,dz##.

EDIT: Never mind the last sentence. I misread your expression for the divergence and thought you would need to actually evaluate a non-trivial integral. Your work looks fine. If the divergence weren't simply a constant, you'd probably be better off switching to cylindrical coordinates.

 

[STEMucator]

Homework Statement

Use either Stokes' theorem or the divergence theorem to evaluate this integral in the easiest possible way.

∫∫V [itex]\cdot[/itex]ndσ over the closed surface of the tin can bounded by x²+y²=9, z = 0, z = 5, if V = 2xyi - y²j + (z + xy)k

The bolded letters are vectors.

Homework Equations

∫∫(∇ xV) [itex]\cdot[/itex] ndσ = ∫V [itex]\cdot[/itex]dr Stokes' theorem

∫∫∫∇ [itex]\cdot[/itex]Vdτ = ∫∫V [itex]\cdot[/itex]ndσ Divergence theorem

The Attempt at a Solution

So what I did was use the divergence theorem to turn this into a volume integral. I did the ∇xV to get 2y-2y+1. But here's where I'm stuck. I can input the formula for the volume of a cylinder, right? Is that dτ? I have to integrate with respect to τ. So if 2y-2y+1 = 1, then I'm left with τ after I integrate, and is τ just ∏r²h?

Thanks

That all sounds reasonable. You can switch to cylindrical co-ordinates to make integrating easier I believe.

 

[Dick]

You mean you calculated ##\nabla\cdot \vec{V}##, not the curl. ##d\tau## is the volume element. For cartesian coordinates, it's equal to ##d\tau = dx\,dy\,dz##. The fact that you're integrating over a cylindrical volume is reflected in the limits. If I were you, however, I'd switch to cylindrical coordinates, where ##d\tau = r\,dr\,d\theta\,dz##.

EDIT: Never mind the last sentence. I misread your expression for the divergence and thought you would need to actually evaluate a non-trivial integral. Your work looks fine. If the divergence weren't simply a constant, you'd probably be better off switching to cylindrical coordinates.

But the divergence isn't a constant. It's 2x-2y+1. After you integrate over the cylinder then the 2x and 2y drop out. But you should say why.

 

[vela]

That's the same mistake I made originally, but the first term is really 2y, not 2x.

 

[Dick]

That's the same mistake I made originally, but the first term is really 2y, not 2x.

Ooo. Yes, it is.