Spivak Calculus chapter 1: absolute values?

In summary: These will be points where either b = 0 or b = -a. One can then make the case-by-case determination for each point.In summary, the conversation was about a student struggling with problems involving absolute value signs. The expert recommended finding "break points" and approaching each case separately. The expert also clarified the definition of absolute value and how it applies to different regions on a graph. They suggested selecting values from each region to determine the behavior of the expression and provided an example for one of the problems.
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My problem is that I don't even know where to start on this! My first problem is always forgetting what I can and can't use, because we can only use pretty basic stuff, only the stuff we have already proven. (For anyone not familiar with the Spivak book.) I'm so confused on where to start, so if anyone could help me plot out some sort of plan for a couple of these, I would be so grateful! I'm really struggling with this course because I don't know where to begin. After we do these problems in class, I understand them, but trying to do the homework before is my problem. I don't mean to look like I haven't attempted this and am looking for an easy way out -- I've been thinking about this for quite awhile now and I'm still stuck.
 
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Your scanned image is so fuzzy that it's nearly illegible.

Which problem do you need to do? Pick one (not a whole section) and show us what you've tried. You need to at least have made an attempt.
 
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Express each of the following without absolute value signs, treating each case separately when necessary.

|a+b| - |b|

My problem is I don't know how to get started, because I don't know if my starting point is right. It says treating each case separately when necessary, and I don't know if it is necessary but I'll try.

If a and b are both positive, |a+b| is a+b and |b| is b. So it would be a + b - b which would be a.

If a and b are both negative, |a+b| is also a+b and |b| is also b. So it would be a+b - b, this would also be a.

If a is positive and b is negative, |a+b| would be |a-b| and |b| would be b. Here's where I start to get a bit confused. I don't know how to show |a-b| without absolute values the correct way. Sorry if that's a really lame question but I'm kinda bad at this. am I even approaching that the right way??

The next question is:

|(|x| - 1)| and again I don't know if I am approaching this the right way. If x is positive, it'd be |x - 1|, I think? But how would I write that? What if x is more than 1 but less than 0? then x - 1 would be a negative number, and from an absolute value, how would that work?
 
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pyrosilver said:
Express each of the following without absolute value signs, treating each case separately when necessary.

|a+b| - |b|

My problem is I don't know how to get started, because I don't know if my starting point is right. It says treating each case separately when necessary, and I don't know if it is necessary but I'll try.

For any problem involving absolute values it is useful to find the "break points" where each argument in an absolute value equals zero. In this case it would be when either b = 0 or b = -a. More on this in a bit.

If a and b are both positive, |a+b| is a+b and |b| is b. So it would be a + b - b which would be a.

I'd buy that.


If a and b are both negative, |a+b| is also a+b and |b| is also b. So it would be a+b - b, this would also be a.

Not buying. If a and b are both negative then a + b is also negative and |a + b| would be (by defintion) -(a + b), while |b| would be -b.


If a is positive and b is negative, |a+b| would be |a-b| and |b| would be b. Here's where I start to get a bit confused. I don't know how to show |a-b| without absolute values the correct way. Sorry if that's a really lame question but I'm kinda bad at this. am I even approaching that the right way??

Unfortunately, it seems there is some fuzziness about how absolute values work. Recall

[tex]\left| x \right| = \left\{ \begin{array}{rl} x, & \text{if } x \geq 0 \\ -x, & \text{if } x < 0 \end{array}[/tex]

In this case, the "break point" equations I mentioned earlier define lines in the ab-plane. They subdivide the plane into four regions:

(1) where b > 0 and b > -a. (Quadrant I and the upper-right triangular octant of Quadrant IV)
(2) where b < 0 and b > -a. (The upper-right triangular octant of Quadrant II)
(3) where b > 0 and b < -a. (The lower-left triangular octant of Quadrant IV)
(4) where b < 0 and b < -a. (Quadrant III and the lower-left triangular octant of Quadrant II)

If you select values of a and b from these regions you can determine whether the absolute value expressions equal their arguments or their opposites and simplify them from there. Just to get you going in the right direction, assume a and b are from region (1). Since b > -a then a + b > 0 and therefore |a + b| = a + b. Similarly b > 0 implies |b| = b. Hence

|a + b| - |b| = (a + b) - b = a.

The expression simplifies to just a in region (1).

See what happens in the other three regions.

The other question can be handled similarly (although I think you only need a number line).

--Elucidus

EDIT: I forgot to mention, one needs to determine the behavior on the dividing lines between the regions themselves.
 

Related to Spivak Calculus chapter 1: absolute values?

1. What is the definition of absolute value?

The absolute value of a number is its distance from 0 on a number line. It is always a positive value, regardless of whether the original number is positive or negative.

2. How do you solve absolute value equations?

To solve an absolute value equation, you must isolate the absolute value expression and then create two equations: one with the positive value and one with the negative value. Solve for both equations and check your solutions to ensure they satisfy the original equation.

3. What is the purpose of absolute values in calculus?

Absolute values are used in calculus to represent the magnitude or size of a number or function. They are often used in limits and derivatives to remove any negative or undefined values and make the function easier to evaluate.

4. Can absolute values be negative?

No, by definition, absolute values are always positive. This is because they represent the distance from 0 on a number line, which is always a positive value.

5. How do you graph absolute value functions?

To graph an absolute value function, you can use the properties of absolute value to determine the key points on the graph. These include the vertex, x-intercepts, and y-intercept. Then, you can plot these points and connect them with a V-shape to create the graph.

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