How Do You Solve the Isobaric Equation (x+y)dx - (x-y)dy = 0?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding a one-parameter family of solutions to the isobaric equation. The attempt at a solution involves simplifying the equation and using a substitution to get a separable differential equation. The conversation also includes a discussion on how to use LaTeX and how to check the solution for the original differential equation.
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Homework Statement


Find a one-parameter family of solutions to the isobaric equation

(x+y)dx - (x-y)dy = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


First I subtracted -(x-y) to the both sides
Step 1: (x+y)dx = (x-y dy

I then distributed dx into (x+y) and dy into (x-y) to get
Step 2: xdx +ydx = xdy -ydy

I then divided the y on the left side of the equal sign to both sides
Step 3: x/ydx + dx = x/ydy + dy

Step 4: using 1/u = x/y

I get
Step 5: 1/u dx + dx = 1/u dy - dy

I then factored out dx and dy to get
Step 6: (1/u +1)dx = (1/u - 1)dy

I then divided (1/u - 1) to both sides and dx to both sides to get
Step 7: (1/u +1) / (1/u - 1) = dy/dx

using the above 1/u = x/y and rearranging to the form y = xu and taking derivative of y in respect to x I get
Step 8: dy/dx = (du/dx)x + u

I then used dy/dx in step 8 to plug into step 7 dy/dx to get
Step 9: (1/u +1) / (1/u - 1) = (du/dx)x + u

I then subtracted the u on the right side of the equal sign to both sides to get
Step 10: (-u+u^3) / 1 - u = (du/dx)x

I then used separable equations to get
Step 11: (1/x)dx = (1-u) / (-u + u^3)du

This is where I stopped because I don't like (u cubed on the denominator).

Any help would be fantastic. I know my next steps will be integration but I feel there's another step that needs to be taken.
 
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Mark Brewer said:

Homework Statement


Find a one-parameter family of solutions to the isobaric equation

(x+y)dx - (x-y)dy = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


First I subtracted -(x-y) to the both sides
Step 1: (x+y)dx = (x-y dy

I then distributed dx into (x+y) and dy into (x-y) to get
Step 2: xdx +ydx = xdy -ydy

I then divided the y on the left side of the equal sign to both sides
Step 3: x/ydx + dx = x/ydy + dy

Step 4: using 1/u = x/y
Or u = y/x, which is a lot simpler. Use this substitution to get a separable differential equation.
Mark Brewer said:
I get
Step 5: 1/u dx + dx = 1/u dy - dy

I then factored out dx and dy to get
Step 6: (1/u +1)dx = (1/u - 1)dy

I then divided (1/u - 1) to both sides and dx to both sides to get
Step 7: (1/u +1) / (1/u - 1) = dy/dx

using the above 1/u = x/y and rearranging to the form y = xu and taking derivative of y in respect to x I get
Step 8: dy/dx = (du/dx)x + u

I then used dy/dx in step 8 to plug into step 7 dy/dx to get
Step 9: (1/u +1) / (1/u - 1) = (du/dx)x + u

I then subtracted the u on the right side of the equal sign to both sides to get
Step 10: (-u+u^3) / 1 - u = (du/dx)x

I then used separable equations to get
Step 11: (1/x)dx = (1-u) / (-u + u^3)du

This is where I stopped because I don't like (u cubed on the denominator).

Any help would be fantastic. I know my next steps will be integration but I feel there's another step that needs to be taken.
 
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Mark44 said:
Or u = y/x, which is a lot simpler. Use this substitution to get a separable differential equation.
Thank you, Mark.

I'm going to work the problem from the beginning so I can use u = y/x.

Mark
 
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Hi Mark,

Thank you again. I successfully finished the problem. My answer determined was arctan(1 + y2/x2) - 1/2ln|1 + y2/x2| = ln|x| + c
 
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can someone explain to me how to post latex?
[tex]\int x^2 dx [/tex]
 
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Sammbuch said:
should be
arctan(y/x) - 1/2 ln(1 + y^2/x^2) = ln(x) + c
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=solve+(x+y)dx-(x-y)dy=0
I didn't check the OP's answer. When you solve a DE, it's always a good idea to check that your solution satisifies the original diff. equation.
Sammbuch said:
The equation ##x+2=3## implies $$x=1.$$
Does the above have anything to do with this problem?

Sammbuch said:
can someone explain to me how to post latex?
[tex]\int x^2 dx [/tex]
See https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/ under INFO --> Help/How-To, in the banner at the top of the page.[/QUOTE]
 

Related to How Do You Solve the Isobaric Equation (x+y)dx - (x-y)dy = 0?

1. What is the isobaric equation and why is it important in science?

The isobaric equation is a mathematical relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature in a system. It is important in science because it allows us to predict how changes in pressure, volume, and temperature will affect a system, and it is a fundamental principle in thermodynamics and fluid mechanics.

2. How do you solve the isobaric equation?

The isobaric equation can be solved by rearranging it into the desired form, substituting known values, and solving for the unknown variable. It is also helpful to use the ideal gas law, PV = nRT, as a starting point for solving the isobaric equation.

3. What are some common applications of the isobaric equation?

The isobaric equation has many applications in science and engineering, including in the study of atmospheric pressure and weather patterns, in the design of engines and turbines, and in the calculation of heat transfer in various systems.

4. Can the isobaric equation be used for any type of system?

The isobaric equation is most commonly used for ideal gases, but it can also be applied to real gases, as long as they follow the ideal gas law. It can also be used for other systems, such as liquids, as long as the pressure remains constant.

5. Are there any limitations to the isobaric equation?

Like any mathematical model, the isobaric equation has limitations and assumptions. It assumes that the pressure remains constant, and it may not accurately predict behavior at extreme temperatures or pressures. Additionally, it may not be applicable to systems with significant chemical reactions or phase changes.

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