Ordering on the Set of Real Numbers .... Sohrab, Ex. 2.1(1)

In summary, the conversation is about a person seeking help with Exercise 2.1.12 Part (1) in Chapter 2 of Houshang H. Sohrab's book "Basic Real Analysis." They discuss Sohrab's definitions of real numbers and properties of addition, multiplication, and inverses. The individual makes progress in their attempt at the solution but still needs help showing that ##\frac{a}{2} \lt a##.
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I am reading Houshang H. Sohrab's book: "Basic Real Analysis" (Second Edition).

I am focused on Chapter 2: Sequences and Series of Real Numbers ... ...

I need help with Exercise 2.1.12 Part (1) ... ...

Exercise 2.1.12 Part (1) reads as follows:

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I am unable to make a meaningful start on Exercise 2.1.12 (1) ... can someone please help ...Relevant equations

Sohrab defines ##\mathbb{R}## as a field with binary operations of addition and multiplication ... he then goes on to define subtraction, division and exponentiation as follows:

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Sohrab's definition of the usual ordering on ##\mathbb{R}## plus some of the properties following are as follows ... (but note that Exercises 2.1.10 and 2.1.11 precede Exercise 2.1.12 and so, I think, must be taken as given properties for the purposes of Exercise 2.1.12 ... ) ...

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I am concerned that Exercises 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 contain properties of addition, multiplication and inverses that flow directly form the properties of \mathbb{R} as a field, ... ... and these properties could possibly be useful in the exercise ... so I am providing Sohrab's description of the field of real numbers and the exercises that follow it, namely Exercises 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 ...

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3. The Attempt at a Solution

I am unable to make a meaningful start on this problem ... can someone help me to get started ...

Peter
 

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I think I have made some progress with showing that ##\frac{a}{2} \gt 0## ...We have ##2 \gt 0## (can we say this? why is it valid?)

and so ##2^{-1} \gt 0## by Exercise 2.1.11 (5) (see scanned text in above post)

So we now have

##a, 2^{-1} \in P## (definition of a as greater than 0 )

##\Longrightarrow a \cdot 2^{-1} \in P## (Order Axiom ##O_2## ... see scanned text in above post)

##\Longrightarrow \frac{a}{2} \gt 0## (by definition of division ...see scanned text in above post)Is that correct?

If it is a valid and good proof ... then we still need to show ##\frac{a}{2} \lt a## ... but how ...?Peter
 
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I think I have made some progress with showing that ##\frac{a}{2} \gt 0## ...
We have ##2 \gt 0## (can we say this? why is it valid?)
This is exercise 2.1.10 (c).
and so ##2^{-1} \gt 0## by Exercise 2.1.11 (5) (see scanned text in above post)
You can also use exercise 2.1.10 (c) again and show, that ##\frac{1}{2}<0## is impossible by ##(O_2)## and ##(O_3)\,##.
So we now have
##a, 2^{-1} \in P## (definition of a as greater than 0 )
##\Longrightarrow a \cdot 2^{-1} \in P## (Order Axiom ##O_2## ... see scanned text in above post)
##\Longrightarrow \frac{a}{2} \gt 0## (by definition of division ...see scanned text in above post)
Is that correct?
Yes.
If it is a valid and good proof ... then we still need to show ##\frac{a}{2} \lt a## ... but how ...?
You can use exercise 2.1.11 (1) and what you just have proven here.
 

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1. What are the basic properties of the set of real numbers?

The set of real numbers has several fundamental properties, including closure, commutativity, associativity, distributivity, and identity. Closure means that when two real numbers are added, subtracted, multiplied, or divided, the result is also a real number. Commutativity means that the order in which numbers are added or multiplied does not affect the result. Associativity means that when multiple operations are performed on a set of real numbers, the result is the same regardless of how the numbers are grouped. Distributivity means that multiplication distributes over addition, and vice versa. Finally, the identity property states that there exist unique real numbers, 0 and 1, that when added to or multiplied by any other real number, result in that number itself.

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3. How are real numbers represented on a number line?

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