Is Vm a reliable measure of magnetic fields in the presence of current?

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the magnetic scalar potential, Vm, and the magnetic field, B. It is stated that when there is no current density, B can be written as the gradient of a scalar potential. However, if there is a current density, B is not a conservative field and Vm is not well defined. This means that Vm includes an arbitrary constant and may vary depending on the path taken. Therefore, it is suggested that B can still be written as -Mu0*grad(Vm) even in the presence of a current density.
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I'm confused about the status of Vm. We are asked under what circumstances we can write B = - Mu0*grad(Vm).
I think the idea is that when there is no current density (displacement or conduction) we can write curl(B) = 0. Therefore we can write B as a grad of a scalar potential, as curl grad = 0 always. The only problem is that even if curl B isn't zero, all this means is that B is not a conservative field, so that Vm isn't path independent i.e it is not well defined. this just means that if we find Vm using different paths we get different values of Vm which differ by a constant, therefore Vm includes an arbitrary constant. the only problem is that this constant disappears on differentiation anyway, so surely we can still write B = -Mu0*grad (Vm) even when there is a current density? thanks for your help.
 
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The point is that if [tex] V_m [/tex] is a well behaved function then [tex] \nabla \times (\nabla V_m) = 0 [/tex] so that the magnetic scalar potential cannot describe a magnetic field in regions where current is nonzero.
 
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What is magnetic scalar potential?

The magnetic scalar potential is a fundamental concept in electromagnetism that represents the energy stored in a magnetic field. It is a scalar quantity that describes the strength and direction of the magnetic field at a given point in space.

How is magnetic scalar potential related to magnetic fields?

The magnetic scalar potential is directly related to the magnetic field through the equation B = ∇ψ, where B is the magnetic field and ψ is the magnetic scalar potential. This means that the magnetic field can be calculated by taking the gradient of the magnetic scalar potential.

What is the unit of magnetic scalar potential?

The unit of magnetic scalar potential is joules per tesla (J/T). This unit is derived from the equation for magnetic potential energy, which is given by U = μ0/2∫B^2dV, where μ0 is the permeability of free space and B is the magnetic field.

Can magnetic scalar potential be measured?

While the magnetic scalar potential cannot be measured directly, it can be calculated from the magnetic field using the equation ψ = ∫B·dl, where B is the magnetic field and dl is an infinitesimal element of the path being integrated over. This integral can be evaluated using experimental data to determine the magnetic scalar potential.

What are some practical applications of magnetic scalar potential?

Magnetic scalar potential has many practical applications, including in magnetic levitation, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and the design of electric motors and generators. It is also used in the study of electromagnetic phenomena and in the development of new technologies.

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