How to Use Vector Analysis Identity to Solve a Closed Loop Integral?

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of showing a specific value for a closed loop integral using the alternative form of Stokes' theorem. The participants also mention an identity that can be used to derive this value and discuss various methods for obtaining the solution.
  • #1
neelakash
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Homework Statement



we are to show a=(1/2) closed loop integral over [r x dl]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I suppose this can be done formally from the alternative form of Stokes' theorem that can be obtained by replacing the vector field in curl theorem by VxC where C is a constant vector

The identity is :

surface int [(da x grad) x V]=closed loop integral over [dl x V]

The RHS matches.But how to show that LHS leads to the required value?
 
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  • #2
There is an identity:
[tex]\oint{\bf dr\times V}={\bf \int(\nabla V )\cdot dS
- \int dS(\nabla\cdot V)}[/tex].
This can be derived by dotting the left hand side by a constatn vector, and then applying Stokes' theorem.
Applying this with V=r works.
 
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OK,thank you.Your method worked nicely...
First I was sceptical about the grad V in your RHS...However,I started from the very beginning by dotting c with the required integral and it worked well.
 
  • #4
There is an easier way I overlooked. Just take
[tex]{\vec k}\cdot\oint{\vec r}\times{\vec dr}[/tex]
where k is a constant vector, and apply Stokes' theorem.
 
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I did just that...your dr reolaced by dl...
 

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