How many maximal ideals of Z_3[x]

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In summary: What are the units of ##\mathbb Z_3[x]##?What happens if you multiply a non-trivial polynomial in ##\mathbb Z_3[x]## by one of them?
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How many maximal ideals generated by quadratic polynomials does ##\mathbb{Z}_3 [x]## contain?

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Here is my reasoning. There are a total of ##2 \cdot 3 \cdot 3 = 18## quadratic polynomials in ##\mathbb{Z}_3 [x]##. If we write ##(x+a)(x+b)##, then there are ##\binom{3}{2} = 3## ways to choose ##a## and ##b##, up to the order of the factors. Since these are the only ways to factor a polynomial, there are 18 - 3 = 15 irreducible quadratic polynomials.

Is this correct?
 
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There a few glitches:

1. Combinations is not a correct way to count possibilities for a and b, since Combinations are for choices without replacement, and the choice here is with replacement - ie a can equal b.

2. Your answer is described as the number of (distinct) irreducible quadratic polynomials. What you are required to count is the number of distinct maximal ideals generated by such. Are you sure there's a 1-1 correspondence between the two? If so, can you demonstrate that, or is it a result you've already been given? Every irreducible polynomial generates a maximal ideal, but does that mean every irreducible polynomial generates a different ideal?
 
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andrewkirk said:
There a few glitches:

1. Combinations is not a correct way to count possibilities for a and b, since Combinations are for choices without replacement, and the choice here is with replacement - ie a can equal b.

2. Your answer is described as the number of (distinct) irreducible quadratic polynomials.What you are required to count is the number of distinct maximal ideals generated by such. Are you sure there's a 1-1 correspondence between the two? If so, can you demonstrate that, or is it a result you've already been given?
So taking into account 1., there are 3 + 3 = 6 reducible quadratics, so there are 18 - 6 irreducible quadratics.

Now, I need to find the number of distinct maximal ideals generated by these irreducible quadratics, but I am not sure how to see when two polynomials generate the same ideal.
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:
So taking into account 1., there are 3 + 3 = 6 reducible quadratics, so there are 18 - 6 irreducible quadratics.
Interesting. I get the same answer, but I don't see how 3+3 comes into it. For me it's 3+2+1.
Now, I need to find the number of distinct maximal ideals generated by these irreducible quadratics, but I am not sure how to see when two polynomials generate the same ideal.
Are they principal ideals? What rules do you know about things one can do to the generator of a principal ideal without changing the ideal?
 
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andrewkirk said:
Are they principal ideals? What rules do you know about things one can do to the generator of a principal ideal without changing the ideal?
You can take the additive inverse of the generator, right? Like that for ##\mathbb{Z}##, ##\langle 1 \rangle = \langle -1 \rangle##
 
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A more general way to approach that uses the concept of units, together with Principal Idealness and commutativity of the ring. In this case I expect it'll give the same answer, but it's good to be aware of the most general approach possible.
 
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andrewkirk said:
A more general way to approach that uses the concept of units, together with Principal Idealness and commutativity of the ring. In this case I expect it'll give the same answer, but it's good to be aware of the most general approach possible.
Don't units have to do with multiplicative inverses though? Do two quadratics generating the same principal ideal have to do with multiplicative inverses or additive inverses?
 
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'Have to do with' is too vague a concept.

What are the units of ##\mathbb Z_3[x]##? What happens if you multiply a non-trivial polynomial in ##\mathbb Z_3[x]## by one of them?
 
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Related to How many maximal ideals of Z_3[x]

What is a maximal ideal?

A maximal ideal is an ideal in a ring that is not contained in any other proper ideal.

How many elements are in Z_3[x]?

There are an infinite number of elements in Z_3[x], as it is a polynomial ring with coefficients in the finite field Z_3.

What is Z_3[x]?

Z_3[x] is a ring of polynomials with coefficients in the finite field Z_3. This means that the coefficients can only be 0, 1, or 2, and addition and multiplication are defined modulo 3.

What does it mean for an ideal to be maximal?

An ideal is maximal if it is not contained in any other proper ideal, meaning it cannot be extended to a larger ideal.

How many maximal ideals does Z_3[x] have?

There are infinitely many maximal ideals in Z_3[x]. One example is the ideal generated by the irreducible polynomial x^2+1.

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