Do you need to use the quadratic formula to solve for the unkown?

In summary, the conversation discusses different methods for solving the equation Ax + Bx^2 + C = 0 and whether or not substituting x=-C or x=-C/A+B is a valid method. It is concluded that these substitutions do not provide the correct solution and the quadratic formula should be used instead. It is also noted that if the equation is set equal to 0, substituting x=0 or x=-A/B would provide the correct solutions.
  • #1
yougene
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Homework Statement


Lets say you have Ax + Bx^2 + C = 0

Usually I would use the Quadratic formula in this situation.

But what if you do this
x( A + Bx ) + C = 0
x( A + Bx ) = -C

Couldn't you then say
x = -C
and
A + Bx = -C
x = (-C - A) / B

?
 
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  • #2
yougene said:

Homework Statement


Lets say you have Ax + Bx^2 + C = 0

Usually I would use the Quadratic formula in this situation.

But what if you do this
x( A + Bx ) + C = 0
x( A + Bx ) = -C

Couldn't you then say
x = -C
and
A + Bx = -C
x = (-C - A) / B

?

Well you could say that, but it won't be correct. If you sub x=-C you will get

-C(A-BC) = -AC+BC2

and that is not the right side of the equation in red.
 
  • #3
No. Factoring takes advantage of the property that if ab=0, then either a=0 or b =0. Furthermore, your answers don't solve the quadratic. Just plug them in.
 
  • #4
And to extend what Random Variable said, if you had ab = 1, then all you know about a and b is that they are reciprocals of one another. They could be 1 and 1, -1 and -1, 2 and 1/2, [itex]\sqrt{2}[/itex] and [itex]1/\sqrt{2}[/itex], or any other of an infinite number of pairs of numbers that multiply to 1.
 
  • #5
Thanks, this is all coming back now. :P

So then my equation would work only if C = 0.


@Mark44

So if my C = -1 then saying
Ax^2 + Bx = 1
would be a valid way to solve the equation?

Or are you saying
Ax^2 + Bx + C = 1
would be valid to solve for?
 
  • #6
yougene said:
Couldn't you then say
x = -C
and
A + Bx = -C

No. Why do you think that? All that is telling you is that x and (A+Bx) are always -C when multiplied together if x is a solution to the quadratic formula. That doesn't tell you anything about what x actually is. Remember, the quadratic formula has 2 solutions so you have to get 2 numbers out of it for x.
 
  • #7
yougene said:
So then my equation would work only if C = 0.

I believe that would be correct. If you had
x (A+Bx) = 0

then either (x) or (A+Bx) must be zero, or both. The two solutions would be
x =0 and
x=-A/B
 

Related to Do you need to use the quadratic formula to solve for the unkown?

1. What is the quadratic formula?

The quadratic formula is a mathematical equation used to solve quadratic equations, which are equations in the form of ax^2 + bx + c = 0. It is written as x = (-b ± √(b^2 - 4ac)) / 2a.

2. When should I use the quadratic formula?

The quadratic formula should be used when you have a quadratic equation that cannot be easily solved by factoring or other methods. It is a reliable and efficient way to find the solutions of a quadratic equation.

3. How does the quadratic formula work?

The quadratic formula works by using the coefficients of a quadratic equation (a, b, and c) to find the values of x that make the equation equal to zero. The ± symbol indicates that there are two possible solutions to the equation.

4. Do I need to use the quadratic formula for every quadratic equation?

No, not every quadratic equation requires the use of the quadratic formula. Some equations can be solved by factoring, completing the square, or other methods. However, the quadratic formula is a useful tool to have in your mathematical toolkit.

5. Can I use the quadratic formula to solve for complex solutions?

Yes, the quadratic formula can be used to find both real and complex solutions to a quadratic equation. Complex solutions involve imaginary numbers and are denoted by the ±√ symbol in the formula.

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