2D LHO calculate ground state energy

In summary, the conversation is about calculating the ground state energy for a Hamiltonian given in an exam. The Hamiltonian is a 2D LHO (linear harmonic oscillator) plus an additional term of 3/4(x+y)^2. The participants discuss using new variables to simplify the term and using an orthogonal transform to bring the potential term to a standard form. They also mention calculating the expectation value for the term containing xy, which is not zero but has not been successfully calculated yet.
  • #1
Das apashanka
A question I have faced in exam to calculate ground state energy
Given Hamiltonian
1/2m(px2+py2)+1/4mw2(5x^2+5y^2+6xy)
ground state energy has to be obtained
Its clear that the Hamiltonian is a 2D LHO Hamiltonian but what for the term 3/4(x+y)2
 
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  • #2
Where does the last term come from?

It can be interesting to introduce mew variables for the sum and difference of x and y.
 
  • #3
mfb said:
Where does the last term come from?

It can be interesting to introduce mew variables for the sum and difference of x and y.
I have broken the terms and got hamiltonian of a 2D LHO plus that term
 
  • #4
It would help if you could show the work instead of describing it like that.
 
  • #5
mfb said:
It would help if you could show the work instead of describing it like that.
H=1/2m(px2+py2)+mw2/2(x2+y2)+3/4(x2+y2+2xy)
where first two terms are of 2D LHO ,and there is the last term
The ground state energy is to be calculated
 
  • #6
The kinetic term is invariant under an orthogonal transform of the variables x and y. Can you use this to bring the potential term to a more standard form?
 
  • #7
DrDu said:
The kinetic term is invariant under an orthogonal transform of the variables x and y. Can you use this to bring the potential term to a more standard form?
Mr Dr Du will you please give some kind of hints to solve this problem
 
  • #8
For the term containing xy if I directly calculate the expectation value using the ground state wave function the answer is coming as 3mw2/8 which actually dimensionally doesn't match
Since <Φ0(x)Φ0(y)I3mw2xy/2IΦ0(x)Φ0(y)>
expectation value of x and y is 1/2​

Is there any discrepancy regarding this
 
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  • #9
Das apashanka said:
Mr Dr Du will you please give some kind of hints to solve this problem
The post was a hint. My first post said basically the same, just a bit more direct. Did you try that?
Das apashanka said:
For the term containing xy if I directly calculate the expectation value using the ground state wave function
You didn't find the ground state wave function yet.
Das apashanka said:
expectation value of x and y is 1/2
The function is symmetric with respect of x and y, the expectation value for both is zero. They are correlated, the expectation value of xy doesn't have to be zero. But you are not yet at the step where you can calculate these things.
 

Related to 2D LHO calculate ground state energy

1. What is a 2D LHO system?

A 2D LHO (Two-Dimensional Linear Harmonic Oscillator) system is a simplified model used in quantum mechanics to study the behavior of a particle confined to a two-dimensional space, subject to a linear restoring force. It is often used as a first step in understanding more complex quantum systems.

2. How is the ground state energy of a 2D LHO calculated?

The ground state energy of a 2D LHO can be calculated using the Schrödinger equation, which describes the energy levels of a quantum system. The equation involves solving for the wave function of the system, and then using that to calculate the energy of the ground state.

3. What factors influence the ground state energy of a 2D LHO?

The ground state energy of a 2D LHO is influenced by several factors, including the strength of the linear restoring force, the mass of the particle, and the size of the two-dimensional space in which the particle is confined. Additionally, any external potential or perturbations can also affect the ground state energy.

4. Why is studying the ground state energy of a 2D LHO important?

The ground state energy of a 2D LHO is important because it provides valuable insights into the behavior of quantum systems, and can be used as a basis for understanding more complex systems. It also has practical applications in fields such as quantum computing and materials science.

5. How is the ground state energy of a 2D LHO experimentally determined?

The ground state energy of a 2D LHO can be experimentally determined by measuring the energy of the system and comparing it to the theoretical values calculated using the Schrödinger equation. This can be done using techniques such as spectroscopy or other forms of energy measurement.

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