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People are free to post here their ideas and watched scenes involving SF actions, whether they can be realistic or not.
Noisy Rhysling said:If you have the crew fight in space suits the whole ship could be in vacuum. This would prevent explosive decompression of the ship if the hull is penetrated. (The ship would be "hulled" in that scenario, nautical term.) Casually mention them hooking into the ship's air supply piping after checking that their personal air tanks are full and ready to use.
Military ships allow for some narration, you have the information broadcast to the crew, and the captain could update them on the battle when necessary. (Watch "The Enemy Below" for a good example of this.)
Noisy Rhysling said:If you watch naval movies that are realistic you'll hear announcements of all kinds routinely. It's how the ship's crew stay on the same page. "Kamikaze inbound port quarter!" would alert not only the guns crews, but the teams below decks who are charged with repairing battle damage on the fly.
As for pressurization battle damage, a large hole would release the pressure in a compartment quicker than a small hole, but the small hole would act as a nozzle, making the escaping air act like rocket exhaust. How much that would affect the fighting characteristics of the ship is up to you.it
The effect of vacuum on a wound may or may not be positive. The blood would foam as dissolved gases in the blood boil off, and this may make the blood dry faster. It would be less obvious how badly the person is bleeding, I think. I'm not sure if the low pressure outside the wound would accelerate the blood loss or if it would promote clogging as the blood dried.
chasrob said:Post SF scenes for realism? Great idea!
I’m writing a serial about a super powered protagonist similar to Superman—flight, invulnerability, fly and move at super speeds and super strength. Super powers, of course, are not even remotely compatible with physical laws, but I would like to have his interactions with his physical milieu be close to reality.
He was an ordinary human male, but was transformed into this super entity. Long story. Plus I should mention that he’s just a few years out of high school and no Einstein. Shortly after this transformation, he was flying over African jungle (haven’t decided the exact location yet), checking out his transvection skills, when he notices a couple of families, local people, in dense brush. Maybe hunting food? However, out of their sight in the flora is a pride of lions, including babies. The adult lions have noticed the people and have surrounded them. Protective because of their young, they appear to be on the verge of attacking the defenseless humans. So, super guy to the rescue.
What does he do? I have this idea that he would use his super speed to befuddle the cats and maybe put the “fear of God” into them; to instill a healthy fear of humans, so to speak. At the same time do no harm to the animals.
He lands amongst the lions, which are on the verge of ambushing the unsuspecting Africans. Maybe half a dozen lionesses and a male. I imagine that the cats would be startled and turn on him, thinking of a quick, easy snack, and/or defense of their young. Which is what he wants—forget about the other humans, etc. So first the male or alpha female charge.
The super decides to use his super speed and reflexes to dodge the jump/charge and it quickly escalates into a complex dance involving him and a half dozen lions attacking at the same time. His idea is to dodge them until their exhaustion and they give up. Wondering what the hell is this hairless beast? ;)
The protag is capable of movement and flight at up to 0.5c. He has clothing, a wet-suit affair, which can withstand movement in atmosphere up to mach 5 (another long story). I have him decide to keep his movements below the speed of sound, say no more than ~290 m/s. Too fast for any animal to react to, I’m guessing. Maybe he throws in a few shoves that send the animal tumbling, to drill into their beastly heads how strong he is.
I’m not sure how to get this down in prose. Maybe have him wait for the lion to get within a foot or so in his attack leap, then drop to his haunches at 600 mph and the lion claws and bites at thin air. Two lions jump at him at the same time and collide when he zips airborne above their heads and out of leaping range, etc.
Moving and dodging at high subsonic speeds—plausible against one of the quickest of the animal kingdom? Or is this idea lame?
On second thought, he could break the sound barrier in one of his moves and scare the whole pride into flight. Would a small body like his make a boom loud enough to do so?
nitpick: the escaping gas would act like a rocket exhaust regardless of how large or small the hole is.Noisy Rhysling said:As for pressurization battle damage, a large hole would release the pressure in a compartment quicker than a small hole, but the small hole would act as a nozzle, making the escaping air act like rocket exhaust.
What wire? What shock?GTOM said:Just watched 3d episode of Dark Matter. They were binded with a wire, and they got loose by shock the wire multiple times.
Does that makes any sense?
It's fantasy. It can work however you like.chasrob said:I’m writing a WIP SF novel, and have a few paragraphs about an alien who is observing, from afar, a cosmic domain wall traverse its way through a large spiral galaxy. What little I know about these walls is from some old usenet posts and Wikipedia :). Apparently they’re topological defects, a boundary between two neighboring “domains”. Domains with different symmetries, whatever that means. Different constants of physics
As I understand it, it’s controversial whether the wall would be bright—radiating all kinds of exotic particles that carry away the difference in zero point energy between one side and the other, or dark, or even have mirror-like qualities, which I depict to the right of the unfortunate galaxy. That is, I used both the bright and mirror characteristics. I read where it would have negative energy density/be gravitationally repulsive, which I tried to show by the warping of the galactic disc. Unfortunately for this particular galaxy, the walls are on the move, at near light speeds. And they are extremely destructive to boot, as can be seen by the warpage. Viewed from the planet on the left, this particular wall, yottaparsecs wide and long, covers half a hemisphere (?) and is exceedingly bright, but also has mirror-like qualities. But, since the galaxy is about 100,000 light years in extent, it'll take that many years for the wall to consume it, giving any advanced life forms an out. If they can do so, of course. And if the wall doesn't suddenly change its course and reverse its direction of travel.
Anything grievously wrong or impossible?
I'm not sure but it does make me wonder how crispy one might get if one entire half of the sky were bright as the sun.chasrob said:Just curious... if a bright wall (like in my drawing) was to extend many observable universes in both dimensions, would it cover half the sky if you were a couple hundred thousand light years away, as in the pic? Considering expansion of space and finite light speed? Right forum?
DaveC426913 said:What wire? What shock?
If, as I said, the wall moves at, say, 99% c and at a billion light years distance, wouldn't the expansion of space shift the wavelength towards the red and there would be less intensity in the visual?DaveC426913 said:...
Here's the crazy thing: even a billion light years away, the wall will still fill exactly half the sky and will appear just as bright as if you were a mere one light year away.
Your diagram shows a straight vector of the asteroid from launch to rendezvous.chasrob said:With regard to orbital mechanics, what have I messed up?
DaveC426913 said:Your diagram shows a straight vector of the asteroid from launch to rendezvous.This will not happen.
DaveC426913 said:I'm not sure how this asteroid - which is going to very obviously be under artificial control - is going to be moved stealthily.He might get it moving toward Earth without anyone noticing, but they're sure going to notice as it gets within a few hundred thouand miles, and they'll defintiely sit up when it artificially brakes upon reaching Earth rendendezvous.
The asteroid's vector is still retrograde.chasrob said:Here’s a path I should have put up-
I just knew this would be more complicated. Too bad the superguy didn’t inherit Supe’s super brain along with the four basic powers.DaveC426913 said:Asteroids orbit counterclockwise at about 25km/s.
Earth orbits counterclockwise at about 30km/s.
So, to move CW, requires a delta V of -(30+25=) -55km/s then +55km/s for a total delta V of 110km/s
So, to move CCW, requires a delta v of -(30-25=) -5km/s then +5km/s, for a total delta V of 10km/s.
I'm wondering why you have him placing it into a retrograde orbit. That seems an unnecessary waste of effort.chasrob said:True, I knew I overlooked something in that drawing. That transfer orbit is very clever, but due to plot contrivances the superguy needs to get the ‘roid in Earth orbit in no more than 3 months. Those orbits have windows, correct? And it may be months before one opens, plus months of travel times, AIUI.
So he wants a direct (brachistrocrone?) path. Here’s a path I should have put up-
Three months, length ~250 million kms, means he launches it to a velocity of 30-35 km/s; plus a few klicks more because the asteroid is moving in more or less the opposite direction. At the end the Earth is moving at <30 klicks toward him, more or less. So he gains time there.
I think its velocity is greater than solar escape even as he nears the sun’s neighborhood from the belt, so it would follow a hyperbolic curve, yes? If he launches it well ahead of earth’s rendezvous point the sun’s gravity should curve the rock over to meet the Earth itself. It’s just rough at first, he can return for mid-course corrections!
This seems to be an ideal solution (calcs and all)!Janus said:I'm wondering why you have him placing it into a retrograde orbit. That seems an unnecessary waste of effort.
Let's consider an asteroid at the midpoint of the belt (about 2.5 AU orbital radius). If I wanted to get it to Earth is under ninety days, I would alter its trajectory into a hyperbolic one with Earth orbit at perihelion. An trajectory with an eccentricity of 1.75 will do the trick as it will take just under 90 days to travel from the asteroid's orbital distance to the Earth's orbital distance along that track. As long as you time it so that the Earth is at the perihelion point of this trajectory at the same time as the asteroids arrives, you are good.
From my figures, it works out that you would have to change the trajectory of the asteroid by an angle of 57.8 degrees and give it a velocity of 37 km/sec.
If this final trajectory is prograde, then this means you need to apply a delta v of 31.33 km/sec. When it arrives at the Earth it will be moving at ~49.4 km/sec, so in order to to put it into orbit, you will need to kill most of the difference between that and the Earth's orbital velocity.
If you try to put it into a retrograde orbit, you will need an initial delta v change of 49 km/sec. There will be a ~ 79 km/sec difference in velocity between it and the Earth upon arrival, and it won't get to the Earth any faster.
Is there a launch window involved? According to my plot, the entire journey, including waiting for a window, must be 2, to no more than 3 months.As long as you time it so that the Earth is at the perihelion point of this trajectory at the same time as the asteroids arrives, you are good.
If it needed to be one particular asteroid, then you would have to wait until the Earth and it were in the proper orientation to each other. But if could be any asteroid of the correct size, then this should not be problem. The asteroids in the belt are pretty evenly distributed, so it shouldn't be that hard to find an appropriate body that is already close enough to the right position.chasrob said:This seems to be an ideal solution (calcs and all)!
Is there a launch window involved? According to my plot, the entire journey, including waiting for a window, must be 2, to no more than 3 months.
This is true. I read somewhere that there are hundreds of asteroids that size in the belt. A good percentage are believed to be nickel-iron that I need.Janus said:If it needed to be one particular asteroid, then you would have to wait until the Earth and it were in the proper orientation to each other. But if could be any asteroid of the correct size, then this should not be problem. The asteroids in the belt are pretty evenly distributed, so it shouldn't be that hard to find an appropriate body that is already close enough to the right position.
It depends upon what altitude it's at when it reaches 7 km/sec. At an altitude of 1759 km it would enter a circular orbit. Higher and it will be elliptical with an apogee at a higher altitude. A lower insertion point results in an elliptical orbit with a lower perigee altitude (The lower limit for the insertion will be ~830 km. Lower than that and the orbit would intersect the Earth's surface.chasrob said:This is true. I read somewhere that there are hundreds of asteroids that size in the belt. A good percentage are believed to be nickel-iron that I need.
After arriving at the Earth rendezvous, if he slows it to about 7 km/s viewed from the Earth's frame, do you think the orbit will most likely be circular? Or elliptical with a periapsis of several hundred kms?
Janus said:It depends upon what altitude it's at when it reaches 7 km/sec. At an altitude of 1759 km it would enter a circular orbit. Higher and it will be elliptical with an apogee at a higher altitude. A lower insertion point results in an elliptical orbit with a lower perigee altitude (The lower limit for the insertion will be ~830 km. Lower than that and the orbit would intersect the Earth's surface.
Calcs much appreciated, Janus. I would have never been able to come up with them by myself.Janus said:...(The lower limit for the insertion will be ~830 km. Lower than that and the orbit would intersect the Earth's surface.
I'm rusty, but it seems to me, for a craft velocity of x, you need an exhaust velocity of at least 2x.GTOM said:I think the fighters delta-V could be about 10km/s with 10km/s exhaust velocity (nuclear battery powered thrusters)
DaveC426913 said:I'm rusty, but it seems to me, for a craft velocity of x, you need an exhaust velocity of at least 2x.