Ale's question at Yahoo Answers regarding a tunnel with parabolic cross-section

In summary, the conversation discusses a question about parabolas, specifically the investigation of a cross-section of a parabolic tunnel that allows for the passage of two lanes of traffic. The largest vehicles to consider are trucks, which are 5m wide and 7m high. The conversation also includes a link to the question on Yahoo! Answers and a solution to finding a possible equation to represent the cross-section, taking into account the space needed for the trucks to pass without bumping into each other or the sides of the tunnel. The final equation found is P(x)=-\frac{1}{13}x^2+\frac{140}{13}=\frac{140-x^2}{13}.
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Here is the question:

This is another question about parabola?

This is another question about parabola.

A tunnel is to built to allow 2 lanes of traffic to pass from one side of a mountain to the other side. The largest vehicles are trucks, which can be considered as rectangles 5m wide and 7m high.
Investigate the cross-section of a parabolic tunnel and find a possible equation to represent it. Allow some space so trucks do not bump into each other or the sides of the tunnel.

Here is a link to the question:

This is another question about parabola? - Yahoo! Answers

I have posted a link there so the OP can find my response.
 
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Re: ale's question at Yahoo! Ansers regarding a tunnel with parabolilc cross-section

Hello ale,

Let's orient the origin of our coordinate system such that it is at the mid-point of the base of the cross-section, with the vertex of the parabola directly above it.

Let's allow 1 m on either side of the trucks and above them as in the diagram:

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/832._xfImport

We see we will require the parabola to pass through the points:

\(\displaystyle (\pm6,8),\,(\pm7,7)\)

Now, letting the parabola be:

\(\displaystyle P(x)=ax^2+bx+c\)

we obtain the linear system:

(1) \(\displaystyle P(6)=36a+6b+c=8\)

(2) \(\displaystyle P(-6)=36a-6b+c=8\)

(3) \(\displaystyle P(7)=49a+7b+c=7\)

(4) \(\displaystyle P(-7)=49a-7b+c=7\)

Adding (1) and (2) and (3) and (4) to eliminate $b$, we get:

(5) \(\displaystyle 36a+c=8\)

(6) \(\displaystyle 49a+c=7\)

Subtracting the (5) from (6) to eliminate $c$, we find:

\(\displaystyle 13a=-1\,\therefore\,a=-\frac{1}{13}\)

and so substituting into (5), we have:

\(\displaystyle 36\left(-\frac{1}{13} \right)+c=8\,\therefore\,c=\frac{140}{13}\)

and then substituting into (1) to find $b$, we get:

\(\displaystyle 36\left(-\frac{1}{13} \right)+6b+8+36\left(\frac{1}{13} \right)=8\,\therefore\,b=0\)

And so we have found:

\(\displaystyle P(x)=-\frac{1}{13}x^2+\frac{140}{13}=\frac{140-x^2}{13}\)

To ale and any other guests viewing this topic, I invite and encourage you to post other algebra problems here in our http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f2/ forum.

Best Regards,

Mark.
 

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Re: ale's question at Yahoo! Ansers regarding a tunnel with parabolilc cross-section

MarkFL said:
Hello ale,

Let's orient the origin of our coordinate system such that it is at the mid-point of the base of the cross-section, with the vertex of the parabola directly above it.

Let's allow 1 m on either side of the trucks and above them as in the diagram:

View attachment 832

We see we will require the parabola to pass through the points:

\(\displaystyle (\pm6,8),\,(\pm7,7)\)

Now, letting the parabola be:

\(\displaystyle P(x)=ax^2+bx+c\)

we obtain the linear system:

(1) \(\displaystyle P(6)=36a+6b+c=8\)

(2) \(\displaystyle P(-6)=36a-6b+c=8\)

(3) \(\displaystyle P(7)=49a+7b+c=7\)

(4) \(\displaystyle P(-7)=49a-7b+c=7\)

Adding (1) and (2) and (3) and (4) to eliminate $b$, we get:

(5) \(\displaystyle 36a+c=8\)

(6) \(\displaystyle 49a+c=7\)

Subtracting the (5) from (6) to eliminate $c$, we find:

\(\displaystyle 13a=-1\,\therefore\,a=-\frac{1}{13}\)

and so substituting into (5), we have:

\(\displaystyle 36\left(-\frac{1}{13} \right)+c=8\,\therefore\,c=\frac{140}{13}\)

and then substituting into (1) to find $b$, we get:

\(\displaystyle 36\left(-\frac{1}{13} \right)+6b+8+36\left(\frac{1}{13} \right)=8\,\therefore\,b=0\)

And so we have found:

\(\displaystyle P(x)=-\frac{1}{13}x^2+\frac{140}{13}=\frac{140-x^2}{13}\)

To ale and any other guests viewing this topic, I invite and encourage you to post other algebra problems here in our http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f2/ forum.

Best Regards,

Mark.

thank u :D
 

Related to Ale's question at Yahoo Answers regarding a tunnel with parabolic cross-section

1. What is a tunnel with a parabolic cross-section?

A tunnel with a parabolic cross-section is a type of tunnel where the roof has a curved shape that follows the curve of a parabola. This means that the height of the tunnel gradually increases from the sides to the center.

2. How is a tunnel with a parabolic cross-section different from a regular tunnel?

A regular tunnel typically has a flat or arched roof, while a tunnel with a parabolic cross-section has a curved roof that follows the shape of a parabola. This shape allows for a more efficient distribution of force and weight, making it a popular choice for long or deep tunnels.

3. What are the advantages of using a parabolic cross-section for a tunnel?

One of the main advantages of using a parabolic cross-section for a tunnel is its ability to distribute pressure and weight more evenly. This makes it a stronger and more stable structure, especially for long or deep tunnels. Additionally, the curved shape allows for better aerodynamics and reduces the amount of material needed for construction.

4. Are there any drawbacks to using a parabolic cross-section for a tunnel?

One potential drawback is the complexity of construction. Creating a parabolic shape requires precise calculations and may be more difficult and time-consuming compared to a regular tunnel. Additionally, the curved shape may limit the types of vehicles or equipment that can pass through the tunnel.

5. How are tunnels with parabolic cross-sections used in real life?

Tunnels with parabolic cross-sections are commonly used for transportation, such as underground railways and roads, as well as for water supply or sewage systems. They are also used in mining and construction projects to create underground passageways. In some cases, they may also be used for aesthetic purposes, such as in architectural designs or for creating unique underground attractions.

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