What is Pi: Definition and 513 Discussions

The number π () is a mathematical constant. It is defined as the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, and it also has various equivalent definitions. It appears in many formulas in all areas of mathematics and physics. The earliest known use of the Greek letter π to represent the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter was by Welsh mathematician William Jones in 1706. It is approximately equal to 3.14159. It has been represented by the Greek letter "π" since the mid-18th century, and is spelled out as "pi". It is also referred to as Archimedes' constant.Being an irrational number, π cannot be expressed as a common fraction, although fractions such as 22/7 are commonly used to approximate it. Equivalently, its decimal representation never ends and never settles into a permanently repeating pattern. Its decimal (or other base) digits appear to be randomly distributed, and are conjectured to satisfy a specific kind of statistical randomness.
It is known that π is a transcendental number: it is not the root of any polynomial with rational coefficients. The transcendence of π implies that it is impossible to solve the ancient challenge of squaring the circle with a compass and straightedge.
Ancient civilizations, including the Egyptians and Babylonians, required fairly accurate approximations of π for practical computations. Around 250 BC, the Greek mathematician Archimedes created an algorithm to approximate π with arbitrary accuracy. In the 5th century AD, Chinese mathematics approximated π to seven digits, while Indian mathematics made a five-digit approximation, both using geometrical techniques. The first exact formula for π, based on infinite series, was discovered a millennium later, when in the 14th century the Madhava–Leibniz series was discovered in Indian mathematics.The invention of calculus soon led to the calculation of hundreds of digits of π, enough for all practical scientific computations. Nevertheless, in the 20th and 21st centuries, mathematicians and computer scientists have pursued new approaches that, when combined with increasing computational power, extended the decimal representation of π to many trillions of digits. The primary motivation for these computations is as a test case to develop efficient algorithms to calculate numeric series, as well as the quest to break records. The extensive calculations involved have also been used to test supercomputers and high-precision multiplication algorithms.
Because its most elementary definition relates to the circle, π is found in many formulae in trigonometry and geometry, especially those concerning circles, ellipses, and spheres. In more modern mathematical analysis, the number is instead defined using the spectral properties of the real number system, as an eigenvalue or a period, without any reference to geometry. It appears therefore in areas of mathematics and sciences having little to do with geometry of circles, such as number theory and statistics, as well as in almost all areas of physics. The ubiquity of π makes it one of the most widely known mathematical constants—both inside and outside the scientific community. Several books devoted to π have been published, and record-setting calculations of the digits of π often result in news headlines.

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  1. G

    Dimensional Analysis and buckingham pi

    Homework Statement Hi Guys, I am a bit confused concerning one part of this topic. Specifically when trying to find non dimensional groups. My problem is a small thing in the finding of the indices. So, for example, your are trying to find a pi group when finding the drag on a car. so you...
  2. EngUOL

    Confused About Transistors: Pi Hybrid & Small Signal Equivalents

    Hi everyone. I am starting to study transisors at Uni. and I am confuse in some main concepts. i thought about posting it here so someone can help me up. are pi hybrid signals equivalent circuits used with the same porposes as small signals equivalent circuits? or are pi hybrid signals, small...
  3. S

    How to connect DC motor to Raspberry Pi?

    I have recently taken apart a few old DVD drives to see if there were any stepper motors available for a Raspberry Pi project I am currently working on. When I opened one of the older drives I found a motor which was unlike the others as it only seemed to have two wires going directly to the...
  4. SSGD

    Variable Set Distribution - Buckingham Pi Theorum

    Background: I am trying to write a program for Buckingham Pi Groups. I need to find a way to list all the input varialbes as different sets. For example if I have 4 variables [V D p u] and I want to distribute them 3 ways I get 4 sets. Number of Sets = Binomial(Number of Variables...
  5. T

    How Does 1,3-Butadiene Absorb UV Light in Terms of Particle-in-a-Box Theory?

    Homework Statement The UV/visible spectroscopy of linear conjugated molecules, particularly 1,3-butadiene in this problem, can often be modeled with the Particle-in-a-box of the electrons. Assume that we are interested in the pi electrons ONLY. A molecule with N double bonds = 2N pi electrons...
  6. A

    Current control of DC motor using PI controller

    Hi everybody! I am trying to implement current control of a DC motor using a PI controller and was having a few questions. I am supplying 19V as input voltage (and capable of supplying current upto 2A) to the H- bridge and the controlling is done via a microcontroller using PWM. When I connect...
  7. O

    MHB How do you solve for an exponent that is pi and a cube root?

    How do you solve when an exponent is pi? And a cube root. Thanks, sorry I'm slow.
  8. H

    Understanding Why C/d = pi is a Constant

    Lets say that "d" is diametr of a circly,and C is the perimetr(length). Why C/d = pi (3.14) is a constant?? I know the proof of archimides with poligons,from which found the value of pi,but how we know that C/d is always equal with a constant that we named as π=3.14; Thanks !
  9. marcus

    PI video of new QG ideas from Eyo Ita, Chopin Soo, C-Y Chou

    http://pirsa.org/14070033/ Physical Hilbert space for the affine group formulation of 4D, gravity of Lorentzian signature. Eyo Ita The authors have revealed a fundamental structure which has been hidden within the Wheeler-DeWitt (WDW) constraint of four dimensional General Relativity (GR) of...
  10. Math Amateur

    MHB The continued fractions form of Pi - Eighteen Century Mathematics of the Irrationals

    Iam reading Julian Havil's book, The Irrationals: A Story of the Numbers You Can't Count On. In Chapter 3 Havil is writing about progress in the eighteenth century in determining the nature of \pi and e through the use of continued fractions. He writes (pages 92 - 93): Can someone please...
  11. 9

    Important pi question (when these numbers will reoccur)

    after it was found out that the first 9 pi digits 141592653 result in the end sum of 9, i searched for its iteration in the large digit chain of pi. after scanning stuff.mit.edu/afs/sipb/contrib/pi/pi-billion.txt it was found that .141592653 occurs at the 427238911 place and ends on the...
  12. P

    How can I recognize and use pi as input in a C program?

    Hello, I'm trying to learn C and am only a couple weeks into it. Suppose I want to write a simple code for Trapezoidal integration and want to have the user input the integration limits via use of scanf. Also, suppose I want to focus on only trig functions such that a common limit is pi. How...
  13. A

    Is Pi Entirely Random or Does It Contain Hidden Patterns?

    or is it all random? thanks :approve:
  14. Isaacsname

    How can I find unique integer relationships in pi?

    One of my interests in pi, and this is all purely recreational, is locating unique integers/relationships, looping numbers ( " orbits " ) etc. In pi, certain integers are located with a position number that when multiplied, by single integers, will return the number itself as a product...
  15. marcus

    Renormalization Group Approaches to Quantum Gravity (conference at PI)

    Perimeter conference http://pirsa.org/C14020 Here are links to the talks' videos and slides PDF Recent developments in asymptotic safety: tests and properties Tim Morris http://pirsa.org/14040085/ What you always wanted to know about CDT, but did not have time to...
  16. P

    Molecular orbitals sigma and pi

    hi! i have a doubt, how can i know the total number of bonding and antibonding electrons given a diatomic molecule's electronic configuration in therms of sigma and pi orbitals? I have to add these σ and π orbitals are of the type gerade and ungerade. does anyone can help me?
  17. R

    Stumbling Upon Pi: Could a Billion 3's be Hidden Inside?

    Let's say we randomly select integers to construct a potentially infinite number, for example 3588945... There is a non-zero chance that eventually we will obtain any possible finite series of numbers, say a billion 3's in a row. It is known that pi is indistinguishable from a random series of...
  18. mesa

    Archimedes and his solution for Pi, what do we have that is better?

    The title pretty much says it all, what do we have today that is better than Archimedes 'method of exhaustion' (although I would argue it is quite beautiful) for deriving Pi?
  19. Conservation

    Sigma and Pi Bonds for Diatomic Oxygen Molecule

    According to the Molecular orbital theory, diatomic oxygen should have σ2px (internuclear axis) and \pi2py and \pi2pz orbitals filled with two unpaired electrons, one at antibonding \pi2py and the other at antibonding \pi2pz. And of course, the 2s bonding and antibonding orbitals as well...
  20. craigi

    The Mystery of Pi: A Philosophical Exploration

    Here's something that has been bugging me for decades. Well I keep forgetting about it thankfully, but I've never really been able to answer it. Why is Pi actually the value that we have for it and not some other number? If the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter was any...
  21. S

    Exploring the Smallest Measurable Units: Planck Length & Pi

    Hi all. This is my first time posting so forgive me If I am doing something wrong. I am a year 7 student interested in all types of physics and my question is, if nothing can be smaller than Planck length then wouldn't past a certain point the digits of pi become obsolete? Simply because the...
  22. R

    Pi Day Misconception: Is Pi an Irrational Number?

    Happy Pi day folks ! Heres a general misconception I am having. It might turn out to be a pretty easy question so please do help me. If i pull out my compass to a radius of 7 cm and draw a circle on a paper. Then i'll take a piece of thread and cut it such that it matches exactly with the...
  23. Greg Bernhardt

    Happy Pi Day! Country Apple Pie is Yum!

    Now I'm hungry. What is your favorite pie? Country apple for me :)
  24. Z

    What is the mathematical concept behind the shear in gravitational lensing?

    Hello all, Sorry about the crappy title. I'm actually not sure what the call the thing I'm here to ask about, which is why I'm here. In the process of reading about gravitational lensing, I've run across an odd mathematical thing that I just don't know how to handle. When a spherical...
  25. T

    What is the maximum input voltage for valid analysis in the BJT hybrid pi model?

    Homework Statement Here is the example along with the solution: What I don't get is what happened to the R_E value. So in this model does it neglect this value? It seems like R_E could be anything and you would still get the same model.I have another question, for this same example, it asks...
  26. R

    Don't believe that pi is a real number

    Wiki defines a real number as But then it turns out that that definition is not rigorous: Since we don't have a rigorous definition of a real number it is hard to justify that pi is a real number. Let's discuss what it means to 'represent a quantity'. Say I were to ask you what is the...
  27. Isaacsname

    What is the largest looping number found in pi?

    I noticed that there are some odd looping numbers in pi Following the rule that : the string becomes the position which becomes the string ( I'll use " Sn " for string number and " Pn " for position number, ( after the decimal ) becomes the next string to locate ( Sn → Pn → Sn ) The process is...
  28. polygamma

    MHB Integral Proofs: $|a| \le \frac{\pi}{2}$ and $|a| \le \pi$

    Show that for $|a| \le \frac{\pi}{2}$, $$\int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\cos (\frac{\pi x}{2}) \cos(ax)}{1-x^{2}} \ dx = \frac{\pi}{2} \cos a$$Similarly, show that for $|a| \le \pi$, $$ \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\sin (\pi x) \sin(ax)}{1-x^{2}} \ dx = \frac{\pi}{2} \sin a $$
  29. 7

    Is it possible to prove that Pi is a normal number?

    In mathematics, a normal number is a real number whose infinite sequence of digits is distributed uniformly in the sense that each of the digit values has the same frequency, also all digits are equally likely. Wikipedia says that it is widely believed that pi is normal, but a proof remains...
  30. jedishrfu

    Day Pi Became 3.2: Solving Squaring the Circle Problem

    Interesting take on solving the Squaring the Circle problem enshrined in law: http://pulse.edf.com/en/day-pi-became-3-2-instead-3-14159/?utm_source=OutbrainInter&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Trafic
  31. C

    Pretty good approximation for Pi

    So \sqrt[5]{306} is a pretty good approximation for Pi (=3.14155). If you add 1/51, so that you have \sqrt[5]{306+1/51} you get 3.1415925 (last digit is 6 for actual Pi.) If you add 1/12997, \sqrt[5]{306+1/51+1/12997} you get 3.141592653587 (vs 3.141592653589 for actual Pi.) And so on. As you...
  32. marcus

    Minkowski vacuum as superposition of spin networks? (Haggard at PI)

    I'd like to understand better the connection between Hal Haggard's September ILQGS talk http://relativity.phys.lsu.edu/ilqgs/ http://relativity.phys.lsu.edu/ilqgs/haggard091713.pdf http://relativity.phys.lsu.edu/ilqgs/haggard091713.wav and the talk he gave at PI two days ago...
  33. D

    MHB Integral = 2pi sum res UHP + pi i sum res real axis

    \(\DeclareMathOperator{\Ima}{Im}\) \(\DeclareMathOperator{\Res}{Res}\) Given \[ \Ima\left[\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\frac{e^{iz}}{z(\pi^2 - z^2)}dz\right]. \] I know the integral is equal to \[ 2\pi i\sum_{\text{UHP}}\Res(f(z); z_j) + \pi i\sum_{\mathbb{R}\text{ axis}}\Res(f(z); z_k). \] However...
  34. S

    Applied BBP-formula for the n-th digit of pi

    Hello everyone, I have trouble understanding how to apply the BBP formula, i.e. actually compute the n-th digit of pi. \pi=\sum\frac{1}{16^{k}}(\frac{4}{8k+1}-\frac{2}{8k+4}-\frac{1}{8k+5}-\frac{1}{8k+6}) where the sum uses k from 0 to ∞. I've read a few explanations how to adapt it...
  35. A

    Pi (π) section symmetrical attenuators

    Homework Statement (a) Design a π section symmetrical attenuator to provide a voltage attenuation of 15 dB and a characteristic impedance of 600 Ω. (b) Construct and test the π section attenuator. Measure and record the input & output voltages of the attenuator and determine the...
  36. J

    Integrating (tan(x/2))^2 between 0 and pi

    Integral of ... Homework Statement Hi, no directions were given it just says ∫(tan(x/2))^2 dx between 0 and pi. You will get for the integral (1/2 (sin(2x)) - ((1/6)sin(2x))^3 I think that this is OK. Part of the graph of the origonal function dips below the axis so it end up being 0. I...
  37. S

    A particle is vibrating with f : Ut = 8 sin (1/2 pi t/T)

    from this equation i get the amplitude is 8 cm, it's a sine function so i guess it has to be a harmonic oscillation i haven't had physics in a while so not really getting anywhere -i need to know T (time for one oscillation) -the frequency f which is 1/T -Vt and At equations, i know i...
  38. F

    The significance of pi in a markov chain

    A question in regards to nomenclature. I am curious as to the significance of using the symbol π for a time-independent distribution. Does it have any relation to the number π or circular geometry? Or does it come maybe from the invariance of i in the P Matrix such that Pi,j → πj? I don't like...
  39. M

    Never really thought this deeply about PI before

    Was just watching an episode of person of interest and the student asks the teacher what pi is good for and he tells her that contained in pi lies every possible combination of words, every conversation that has ever taken place on Earth is located somewhere in pi. Every shakespear play, every...
  40. W

    Why is the value of PI not absolute?

    Why is the value of PI not absolute mathematically?
  41. P

    Is Pi a rational number in any other base besides base Pi?

    I'm wondering if Pi is a rational number in any other base besides base Pi. Also is there a formula or function to figure this out? I'm not what the relevance would be if we could find one since the integers might be irrational if we did but I am just curious if indeed Pi is only a rational in...
  42. E

    T to ∏ Conversion | Solve Homework Statement

    Homework Statement Perform a T to ∏ conversion on the components marked with an asterix (see attachment) The Attempt at a Solution I believe the answer is 6. Zab = sum of the two impedances connected to terminals "A and B" + product of T impedance connected to terminals...
  43. J

    Things you can do with raspberry pi

    I just heard about this thing called raspberry pi. It's a credit-sized computer made by raspberry pi foundation. I heard of many projects you can do with this. There are sites with top 10 things you can do with the computer etc. What makes this computer special which allows us to do so many...
  44. N

    Physics experiments with the Rasperry Pi

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  45. V

    Exploring the Mystery of Pi: 180 deg & 2 pi = 360 deg

    I know a Pi is 3.14159265359 or 22/7. Or Pi is a ration between a circle's circumference and its diameter. Why Pi = 180 deg and 2 pi = 360 deg? Please explain.
  46. C

    Why/how does integral of solid angle = pi?

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  47. O

    Just Some Theorizing for Pi Enthusiasts

    So I heard someone say that the cube root of 31 is a good approximation for ∏. This led me to thinking about higher roots and approximations. ψ denotes the nearest whole number \pi^{2} \approx 9.86960440109 ψ=10 \sqrt[2]{10}=3.16227766017 \pi^{3} \approx 31.00627668029 ψ=31...
  48. A

    Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem not working for n=8 and α= pi?

    Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem not working for n=8 and α= pi? I am reading a number theory textbook that states Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem as follows: If α is a real number and n is a positive integer, then there exists integers a and b with 1≤ a ≤ n such that |aα-b|< 1/n . There...
  49. Philosophaie

    How to Calculate the Value of Pi?

    calculate "pi" How do you calculate "pi"? pi~3.141592654
  50. R

    Why is Pi Irrational for Circles?

    We cannot put the ratio of circumference/diameter in the form p/q. In this case the circumference. Because any number of sides of a regular polygon perimeter to calculate the circumference will not fit to the circumference of a circle. That is the number of sides of a polygon tends to...
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