Where has the energy of the closed photon packet gone?

In summary, photons emitted from a star in a far away galaxy have a red shift/doppler caused by the energy of the photon being less than 1000keV. This lowers the photon's total energy and causes it to have a lower frequency. The gravitational potential and expansion of the universe cause the shift back to its original frequency upon entering our galaxy.
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A photon is emitted from a star in a far away galaxy.

Its energy is hv = 1000 keV
Its velocity is c.

When it arrives at the retina, the redshift/doppler caused the photon to have an energy less than 1000keV.

Where has the energy of the closed photon packet gone?
 
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To answer this, imagine two vehicles traveling away from each other. As one vehicle emits some sort of sound (a siren maybe), the sound waves travel over to the other vehicle. However, since the vehicle is moving away, it will register the sound as having a lower frequency. This is the Doppler effect that many are familiar with.

Now expand this scenario to a galactic scale. Due to the expansion of the universe, most galaxies are moving away from us. If they are sending out photons at some frequency, then we in our galaxy would pick it up as a lower frequency (much like the vehicles). This lower frequency would then cause us to read the photon's energy as being less than when it left the other galaxy.

The reason this is is all because of reference. The energy of the photon was never lost, it was just adjusted for our galaxy's point of reference. Sort of like how kinetic energy is based on an object's speed. But if one observer is at rest and another is moving, then they will both have calculated different kinetic energies.
 
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Additionally, there is a gravitational shift. The photon, with an effective mass of hf/c^2, has a negative gravitational potenial, which is gained as photon energy as the photon moves away from the gravitational field. Since the gravitational potential increases (to zero), the total energy of the photon decreases, which shows itself as a red-shift, or decrease in energy.

The only problem with this is that the gravitational potenial may increase again upon entering our own galaxy. But the shift is a factor.
 

Related to Where has the energy of the closed photon packet gone?

1. Where does the energy of a closed photon packet go?

The energy of a closed photon packet is not lost, but rather transformed into other forms of energy. This can include being absorbed by matter and converted into kinetic energy or being reflected and converted into thermal energy.

2. Can the energy of a closed photon packet be destroyed?

No, according to the law of conservation of energy, energy cannot be created or destroyed. The energy of a closed photon packet can only be transformed into other forms of energy.

3. How does the energy of a closed photon packet contribute to the overall energy of a system?

The energy of a closed photon packet is just one component of the overall energy of a system. It can contribute to the total energy through its interactions with matter and other forms of energy, such as heat and electricity.

4. Is the energy of a closed photon packet constant?

Yes, the energy of a closed photon packet remains constant throughout its journey. However, it can change forms as it interacts with different elements and particles.

5. What happens to the energy of a closed photon packet when it is absorbed by matter?

When a closed photon packet is absorbed by matter, its energy is transferred to the particles of the matter, causing them to vibrate and increase in kinetic energy. This can lead to an increase in temperature or other physical changes in the matter.

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