What is the tangent line at point (0,0,1) for the intersection of two surfaces?

In summary: Since the curve is the intersection of the two surfaces, those parametric equations will satisfy both equations so x^2+ y^2+ 1= t^2+ t^2+ 1= 2t^2+ 1= e^{t^3}.
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The graph of z=x^2+y^2+1 and the graph of x+y+z=e^(xyz) have a common point (0,0,1). Find the angle between the two corresponding tangent planes respect to these two graphs at point (0,0,1). In addition, find the tangent line of the curve intersected by these two graphs at point (0,0,1).
 
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So I tried this:

x^2+y^2-z=-1
and I know the angle=arccos(dot product of normal unit vectors)

But I don't know exactly what to do :(
 
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jk8985 said:
The graph of z=x^2+y^2+1 and the graph of x+y+z=e^(xyz) have a common point (0,0,1). Find the angle between the two corresponding tangent planes respect to these two graphs at point (0,0,1). In addition, find the tangent line of the curve intersected by these two graphs at point (0,0,1).
We can think of the two surfaces as "equi-potential" surfaces of [tex]f(x,y,z)= z- x^2- y^2[/tex] and [tex]g(x,y,z)= x+ y+ z- e^{xyz}[/tex]. Their gradients, [tex]\nabla f= -2x\vec{i}- 2y\vec{j}+ \vec{k}[/tex] and [tex]\nabla g= (1- yze^{xyz})\vec{i}+ (1- xze^{xyz})\vec{j}+ (1- xye^{xyz})\vec{k}[/tex] are perpendicular to the surfaces and perpendicular to the tangent planes at each point.

In particular, at (0, 0, 1), [tex]\nabla f(0, 0, 1)= \vec{k}][/tex] so the tangent plane is [tex]0(x- 0)+ 0(y- 0)+ 1(z- 1)= 0[/tex] or z= 1. And [tex]\nabla g(0, 0, 1)= \vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ \vec{k}[/tex] so the tangent plane is [tex]1(x- 0)+ 1(y- 0)+ 1(z- 1)= x+ y+ z- 1= 0[/tex] or [tex]x+ y+ z= 1[/tex]. The angle between those two planes is the same as the ange between the two perendicular vectors and you can use [tex]\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v}= |\vec{u}||\vec{v}|cos(\theta)[/tex] to find that angle.

The length of [tex]\vec{k}[/tex] is 1, the length of [tex]\vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ \vec{k}[/tex] is [tex]\sqrt{3}[/tex], and their dot product is 1. So [tex]1(\sqrt{3})cos(\theta)= 1[/tex].
 
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HallsofIvy said:
We can think of the two surfaces as "equi-potential" surfaces of [tex]f(x,y,z)= z- x^2- y^2[/tex] and [tex]g(x,y,z)= x+ y+ z- e^{xyz}[/tex]. Their gradients, [tex]\nabla f= -2x\vec{i}- 2y\vec{j}+ \vec{k}[/tex] and [tex]\nabla g= (1- yze^{xyz})\vec{i}+ (1- xze^{xyz})\vec{j}+ (1- xye^{xyz})\vec{k}[/tex] are perpendicular to the surfaces and perpendicular to the tangent planes at each point.

In particular, at (0, 0, 1), [tex]\nabla f(0, 0, 1)= \vec{k}][/tex] so the tangent plane is [tex]0(x- 0)+ 0(y- 0)+ 1(z- 1)= 0[/tex] or z= 1. And [tex]\nabla g(0, 0, 1)= \vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ \vec{k}[/tex] so the tangent plane is [tex]1(x- 0)+ 1(y- 0)+ 1(z- 1)= x+ y+ z- 1= 0[/tex] or [tex]x+ y+ z= 1[/tex]. The angle between those two planes is the same as the ange between the two perendicular vectors and you can use [tex]\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v}= |\vec{u}||\vec{v}|cos(\theta)[/tex] to find that angle.

The length of [tex]\vec{k}[/tex] is 1, the length of [tex]\vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ \vec{k}[/tex] is [tex]\sqrt{3}[/tex], and their dot product is 1. So [tex]1(\sqrt{3})cos(\theta)= 1[/tex].

This is exactly what I ended up getting, with theta equalling ~1 radian. How would I go about finding the tangent line? I would always think it's a plane, so I didn't know how to approach it.
 
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jk8985 said:
How would I go about finding the tangent line? I would always think it's a plane, so I didn't know how to approach it.
The curve is the intersection of the two graphs, and the tangent line to the curve (at the point (0,0,1)) will be the intersection of the tangent planes to the graphs at that point. HallsofIvy has already found the equations of the two planes, so all you need to do now is to find the equation of their intersection.
 
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Opalg said:
The curve is the intersection of the two graphs, and the tangent line to the curve (at the point (0,0,1)) will be the intersection of the tangent planes to the graphs at that point. HallsofIvy has already found the equations of the two planes, so all you need to do now is to find the equation of their intersection.

How would I make that at the point (0,0,1) [i think it was that point]

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jk8985 said:
How would I make that at the point (0,0,1) [i think it was that point]

My apologies for the bad grammar, by the way, I'm on my phone.
 
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jk8985 said:
This is exactly what I ended up getting, with theta equalling ~1 radian. How would I go about finding the tangent line? I would always think it's a plane, so I didn't know how to approach it.
What tangent line are you talking about? The tangent line to the curve of intersection? "I would always think it's a plane" confuses me. What do you always think is a plane"?

The tangent planes of the two surfaces, at (0, 0, 1), are, as I said before, z= 1 and x+ y+ z= 1. Since z= 1, x+ y+ z= x+ y+ 1= 1 so x+ y= 0 and y= -x. Taking x as parameter, we can write x= t, y= -t, z= 1 as parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve of intersection at (0, 0, 1).
 

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