What is the significance of U at infinity in relation to Earth?

In summary, the value of potential energy at infinity with respect to Earth as a reference point is typically defined as zero. This convention allows for a simpler calculation of potential energy for objects near Earth. However, this is just a convention and potential energy can be defined at any distance. The formula for potential energy can be found by evaluating the work done in slowly lifting an object from the surface of the Earth to infinity and using the work-energy theorem to express it in terms of potential energy.
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hello sir ...can anyone explain me the value of (U) at infinity with respect to Earth as reference point
 
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Potential energy is given by 'mgh' where the 'g' is acceleration due to the Earth's gravity. As soon as you escape the Earth's gravitational field, it stops affecting you. So the value of PE at infinity doesn't really come up.
 
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U of what?

The absolute value is arbitrary, it is chosen to make the problem as simple as possible. For experiments in the lab, potential energy is typically zero at the floor, for experiments in space, it is more convenient to set the potential "at infinity" to zero - but you do not have to do this.
 
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The usual formula for U uses infinity as the reference point. U of Earth referenced to infinity is the opposite of U of infinity referenced to earth. So just take the usual formula, find U of Earth referenced to infinity, and flip the sign.
 
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siddharth23 said:
Potential energy is given by 'mgh' where the 'g' is acceleration due to the Earth's gravity. As soon as you escape the Earth's gravitational field, it stops affecting you. So the value of PE at infinity doesn't really come up.
As the other answers implied, that isn't correct. Mgh is as typically used is a simplification for constant g. But for "escape", you'd combine with the equation for gravitational acceleration and integrate over the infinite distance to escape. That's how escape velocity is found and you can find the derivation on its wiki page.

And due to the continuous nature of the gravitational force equation, there is, of course, no distance where the force is exactly zero and Earth's gravity stops affecting you.
 
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russ_watters said:
As the other answers implied, that isn't correct. Mgh is as typically used is a simplification for constant g. But for "escape", you'd combine with the equation for gravitational acceleration and integrate over the infinite distance to escape. That's how escape velocity is found and you can find the derivation on its wiki page.

And due to the continuous nature of the gravitational force equation, there is, of course, no distance where the force is exactly zero and Earth's gravity stops affecting you.
Ya I realized that. Do I feel silly!
 
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John Mcclane said:
hello sir ...can anyone explain me the value of (U) at infinity with respect to Earth as reference point
As others have pointed out, typically the potential energy is conventionally defined as U = 0 when the distance is infinity, r = ∞. Following this convention, U is negative for values of r < ∞. In other words, most of the time U is negative when an object is near Earth.

This is merely a convention though. You can define U = 0 at any distance you wish, but it's usually chosen to be zero at r = ∞. There is no such thing as "absolute" potential energy.

Although this is not part of your original question, if you wanted to you can find the rest of the formula by evaluating the work done by slowly lifting a mass from the surface of the Earth R, up to infinity.
[tex] W = \int_R^{\infty} \vec F \cdot \vec {dr} [/tex]
or more generally at an arbitrary radius r (such that r is greater than the radius of the Earth, of course),
[tex] W = \int_r^{\infty} \vec F \cdot \vec {dr'} [/tex]Then use the work-energy theorem to express that work in terms of potential energy.

I gather you know what the gravitational force, [itex] \vec F [/itex] is, as a function of [itex] r [/itex]?
 
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Related to What is the significance of U at infinity in relation to Earth?

1. What is absolute potential energy?

Absolute potential energy is the total amount of energy an object has based on its position and composition, without considering any external factors such as friction or air resistance.

2. How is absolute potential energy different from relative potential energy?

Absolute potential energy is an intrinsic value that is unique to each object, while relative potential energy compares the energy of one object to another. For example, a ball on a shelf has a different absolute potential energy than a ball on the floor, but the relative potential energy between the two is the same.

3. What is the formula for calculating absolute potential energy?

The formula for absolute potential energy is E = mgh, where E is the energy in joules, m is the mass of the object in kilograms, g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s²), and h is the height of the object in meters.

4. Can absolute potential energy be negative?

Yes, absolute potential energy can be negative if it is defined as the potential energy of an object in a reference point where the energy is zero. This can occur when the reference point is at a higher elevation than the object.

5. How is absolute potential energy related to kinetic energy?

Absolute potential energy and kinetic energy are two forms of mechanical energy. As an object moves from a higher position to a lower position, it loses potential energy and gains kinetic energy. This relationship is described by the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred between different forms.

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