What is the issue with applying the Laplace transform to tcos(4t)?

In summary, the conversation discusses a discrepancy in the sign of an answer when using a formula. The formula in question is tnf(t)=(-1)n dF(s)/dsn, and the specific problem is with the derivative of s/(s2+16). The summary explains that the mistake is due to an error in applying the quotient rule.
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Feodalherren
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Homework Statement


f(t)=tcos(4t)

Homework Equations



tnf(t)=(-1)n dF(s)/dsn

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand why this formula is giving me the oppiste sign of the answer.

If I apply the formula I get

(16-s2)/(s2+16)2

Because n=1 I need to multiply by a negative but this yields the incorrect answer.
 
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Feodalherren said:

Homework Statement


f(t)=tcos(4t)

Homework Equations



tnf(t)=(-1)n dF(s)/dsn

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand why this formula is giving me the oppiste sign of the answer.

If I apply the formula I get

(16-s2)/(s2+16)2

Because n=1 I need to multiply by a negative but this yields the incorrect answer.

$$-\frac{-s^2+16}{(s^2+16)^2}=\frac{s^2-16}{(s^2+16)^2}$$which is correct.
 
  • #4
His answer doesn't have a negative in front?
Edit: nevermind, looking at wrong thing. Carry on
 
  • #5
But that's not what I'm getting.

Taking the derivative of s/(s2+16)

= (s(2s)-(s2+16)/(s2+16)2

now multiply the result with -1 and we get the opposite sign for the answer.
 
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Feodalherren said:
But that's not what I'm getting.

Taking the derivative of s/(s2+16)

= (s(2s)-(s2+16)/(s2+16)2

now multiply the result with -1 and we get the opposite sign for the answer.

That is because your quotient rule is wrong.
 
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Ah I see. Thank you!
 

Related to What is the issue with applying the Laplace transform to tcos(4t)?

1. What is a Laplace transform?

A Laplace transform is a mathematical tool used to convert a function from the time domain to the frequency domain. It is commonly used in engineering and physics to solve differential equations.

2. How do you perform a Laplace transform?

To perform a Laplace transform on a function, you must first take the integral of the function multiplied by the exponential function e^-st, where s is a complex variable. The result is a new function in the frequency domain.

3. What is the Laplace transform of tcos(4t)?

The Laplace transform of tcos(4t) is equal to (s^2 + 16) / (s^2 + 4)^2. This can be derived by using the properties of Laplace transforms and solving the integral.

4. What is the significance of the Laplace transform of tcos(4t)?

The Laplace transform of tcos(4t) represents the frequency spectrum of the function tcos(4t). It can be used to analyze the behavior of the function in the frequency domain and solve differential equations involving the function.

5. What are some real-life applications of Laplace transforms?

Laplace transforms have various applications in engineering and physics, such as in circuit analysis, control systems, signal processing, and heat transfer. They are also used in economics, finance, and biology to model different systems and phenomena.

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