What are the branch points for \log (z^2 + 2z + 3)?

In summary, the conversation is about finding a branch of ln(z^2 + 2z + 3) that is analytic at -1 and solving for the derivative at -1. The branch point of ln(z) is z=0 and in order to solve for the branch point, the equation z^2 + 2z + 3=0 needs to be solved. One person made a mistake in their calculation and got a different answer than Wolfram Alpha. The correct values to substitute back into the expression within the logarithm are \log(2-\sqrt{2}) and \log(2+\sqrt{2}).
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Gh0stZA
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Hi everyone,

Could someone please help me calculate the branch points?

Find a branch of [tex]\log (z^2 + 2z + 3)[/tex] that is analytic at -1, and compute the derivative at -1.
 
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The "branch point" of ln(z) itself is z= 0. So you need to solve [itex]z^2+ 2z+ 3= 0[/itex].
 
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HallsofIvy said:
The "branch point" of ln(z) itself is z= 0. So you need to solve [itex]z^2+ 2z+ 3= 0[/itex].

I did. My answer is [tex]-1 \pm i[/tex] but Wolfram Alpha gives it as [tex]-1 \pm \sqrt{2} i[/tex]
 
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Well, since you don't say how you got [itex]-1\pm i[/itex], I can only say that Wolfram Alpha is correct.
 
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I'm sorry, I made a stupid mistake with my quadratic formula. I now have the same answer as Wolfram.

So do I basically substitute the values back into the expression within the logarithm? In that case, I get [tex]\log(2-\sqrt{2})[/tex] and [tex]\log(2+\sqrt{2})[/tex]
 
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Gh0stZA said:
I'm sorry, I made a stupid mistake with my quadratic formula. I now have the same answer as Wolfram.

So do I basically substitute the values back into the expression within the logarithm? In that case, I get [tex]\log(2-\sqrt{2})[/tex] and [tex]\log(2+\sqrt{2})[/tex]

No. You need do nothing more to identify the branch points and sides, if you back-substituted the zeros of that quadratic back into the quad, you should get zero.
 

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