Vehicle COG comparison for longitudinal rollover

In summary, the conversation discusses comparing the stability of two different models, Model A and Model B, based on their COG height and longitudinal axle split. Model B is believed to have greater all round stability and a lower tipping axis angle. The conversation also mentions the importance of considering the maximum ground slope that can be accommodated with a close CG to a wheel and the use of a lateral static stability factor calculation in determining stability.
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Hi
I am trying to compare which of the (2) models has the greatest stability longitudinaly.
I have the COG height and longitudinal (axle split)
Model A has it COG closer to the centre of the axles (longitudinal - further from rear axle 1,487l) but sits much higher (2,537 above axle centre)
Model B has its COG closer to the rear axle (1,141) but sits much lower (1,745mm from axle centre)

Obviously there is a trade off going higher with the COG.

I believe that Model B has the greater all round stability by around 9%
The main factor that is trying to be quantified is which model is more likely to tip backwards.

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Model A 1,487 2,537
Model B 1,141 1,745
 

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Flipping forward or rearward is pitch stability, flipping on a sideslope would be lateral or roll stability. For your problem the tipping axis is the relationship between the axis of support (normal line from ground contact point of the closest wheel that goes through the wheel center) and line the connects the CG to the center of the closest tipping wheel, in your case the rear wheel. The vehicle flips when the CG moves outside the axis of support of that wheel based on the slope of the ground and acceleration. Statically, the free body diagram is a sum of the moments about that rear wheel, so the worst design occurs when the angle formed between the wheel center and CG, and horizontal - you have the x and y, so you have the angles are A - 59.6 and B - 56.8, so B is a lower angle and thus better. Don't forget to taking into account the maximum ground slope you can accommodate with a CG so close to a wheel. not sure where you got 9%?

If you need a diagram let me know...

You will also want the lateral static stability factor calculation. This calculation is used in the auto, ATV, and off-highway industries and is government metric. It takes into account suspension movement during the roll by physical testing on a tilt table.
Lateral the basic calculation is simple. static stability factor = T / 2* h (T is track width). (h is center of gravity height) for lateral assuming the cg is in the center.
 

What is a vehicle's center of gravity (COG)?

A vehicle's center of gravity (COG) is the point at which all of its weight and mass is evenly distributed. It is typically located near the vehicle's geometric center and can be affected by factors such as the weight of the engine, passengers, and cargo.

Why is comparing vehicle COG important for longitudinal rollover?

Longitudinal rollover, also known as end-over-end rollover, occurs when a vehicle flips over its front or rear end. This type of rollover can be caused by a high center of gravity, which makes a vehicle more prone to tipping over. By comparing the COG of different vehicles, we can determine which ones are at a higher risk for longitudinal rollover, and make design or safety changes accordingly.

How is vehicle COG measured and compared?

Vehicle COG is typically measured using a tilt table or a computer simulation. The vehicle is tilted at different angles and the COG is calculated based on the point at which it balances. To compare COG between different vehicles, the measurements are compared and analyzed to determine which vehicle has a higher or lower COG.

What factors can affect a vehicle's COG?

The main factors that affect a vehicle's COG include the weight and distribution of the vehicle's components, such as the engine, body structure, and fuel tank. Passenger and cargo weight and placement can also affect the COG. Additionally, modifications to the vehicle, such as lifting or lowering the suspension, can alter the COG.

How can vehicle COG be improved to prevent longitudinal rollover?

To improve a vehicle's COG and prevent longitudinal rollover, designers can lower the weight of heavier components, such as the engine, and distribute weight evenly throughout the vehicle. Lowering the vehicle's overall height can also help lower the COG. Additionally, drivers can reduce the risk of rollover by keeping their vehicle's weight balanced and avoiding sudden turns or maneuvers.

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