Van de Graaff Generator : Limiting factor on Voltage

In summary, the outside field intensity and possible dielectric breakdown on the belt are limiting factors for the maximum voltage that can be reached on a VDG machine. Additionally, the charge back onto the downward running belt due to the strong field between the aperture and the belt is not a practical factor in most designs. The maximum voltage is also limited by factors such as coronal discharges, sparks, and leakage currents. The largest VDG machine ever built reached 25 million volts, but there are only a handful of machines that go beyond 10 million volts. The use of SF6 gas and a chain of metal pellets instead of a belt can help mitigate these limitations.
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Many sources talk about the field inensity (and therefore arcing/breakdown) on the outside of the dome as a limiting factor on the highest voltage that can be possibly reached on a VDG machine. There are also references to possible dielectric breakdown along the belt itself.

I am wondering if there could be another phenomenon at play.

As the belt runs downwards after delivering its charge to the upper roller + brush, it has to pass the inner edge of the window at the bottom of the globe. However carefully we smooth out this edge, there will be a strong field between the aperture and the belt. As the voltage builds up on the shell, there will be an increasing tendency to spray some charge back onto the downward running part of the belt, which will then carry the charge away as fast as the upward motion brings it in. (This process would be stable and continuous at some point, and is not the same as breakdown of the belt material).

Is this mechanism really a practical factor to consider in VDG design? If so, are there cases where this process would kick in well before the breakdown on the outer surface?
 
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There are many factors at play due to technological limitations. Even if everything were ideal, there is a maximum charge you can get on the dome with a constant rate of mechanical work.

Whether a particular factor is important to the design depends on what you want the generator to do.
My understanding is that edge effects by the belt are, in practice, small compared with the breakdown - which is achieved quite quickly in most designs. However, I imagine it is possible to rig insulation and other dimensions so that they become significant.
You know it is not "really" a practical factor in most designs because none of your sources mention it.
 
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The biggest VDG ever built, as far as I know, went to 25 million volts - the 25 URC at Oak Ridge. It shut down operations a few years ago. There are about half a dozen machines around the world that go beyond 10 million volts still in operation. Coronal discharges, sparks, and leakage currents (all resulting in terminal instability) limit the maximum voltage, but this is more an engineering challenge than a physics one. You're also limited in how big you can reasonably build it. VDGs aren't compact accelerating structures!

The trick is to run them with the terminal inside multiple atmospheres of an insulating gas - SF6 to suppress sparks, and to not use a belt, but a chain of metal pellets, connected by nylon links.
 

Related to Van de Graaff Generator : Limiting factor on Voltage

What is a Van de Graaff Generator and how does it work?

A Van de Graaff Generator is a device that uses static electricity to produce high voltages. It works by creating a charge imbalance between two metal electrodes, one of which is insulated and the other is connected to a belt. The belt continuously moves, creating a charge separation that results in a high voltage on the insulated electrode.

What is the maximum voltage that can be achieved with a Van de Graaff Generator?

The maximum voltage that can be achieved with a Van de Graaff Generator is typically around 5-10 million volts. However, this can vary depending on factors such as the size and design of the generator, as well as environmental conditions.

What is the limiting factor on the voltage produced by a Van de Graaff Generator?

The limiting factor on the voltage produced by a Van de Graaff Generator is usually the breakdown voltage of air. This is the point at which the electric field becomes so strong that it ionizes the air molecules and allows electricity to flow through it, causing the voltage to drop.

How can the voltage of a Van de Graaff Generator be increased?

The voltage of a Van de Graaff Generator can be increased by increasing the speed of the belt, using larger electrodes, or using a different insulating material. However, there is a practical limit to how high the voltage can be increased due to the breakdown voltage of air.

What are some practical applications of Van de Graaff Generators?

Van de Graaff Generators have several practical applications, including in particle accelerators, nuclear physics experiments, and medical treatments. They are also commonly used in educational demonstrations to show the effects of high voltage electricity.

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