Using differentials in the equation of tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3

In summary, the conversation discusses using differentials dy and dx in the equation of the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3. The first equation presented is y=f'(3)(x-3)+f(3)=6(x-3)+9, but it is argued that the added "9" is not equivalent to dy and should not be included. The equation is then rewritten as 6(x-3)+6dx=6(x-3)+18, using the fact that dy=6dx. The group then discusses why the first equation and the rewritten equation are not the same, ultimately concluding that the limit must be taken into account. Finally, an alternative form for the equation of the tangent line is presented
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To understand differentials better, I'm trying to use differentials dy and dx in the equation of the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3.

Here is the equation of the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3:

[tex]y=f'(3)(x-3)+f(3)=2(3)(x-3)+9=6(x-3)+9[/tex]

But since we are dealing with the tangent, why can't we write the above equation as:

[tex]y=\frac{dy}{dx}(x-3)+dy[/tex]

Since [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=6[/tex] from which [tex]dy=6dx[/tex], we can rewrite the above as:

[tex]6(x-3)+6dx=6(x-3)+6(3)=6(x-3)+18[/tex]

Why this equation and the first equation aren't the same?

How else can the equation of tangent line be written in terms of dys and dxs?
 
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Juwane said:
To understand differentials better, I'm trying to use differentials dy and dx in the equation of the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3.

Here is the equation of the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3:

[tex]y=f'(3)(x-3)+f(3)=2(3)(x-3)+9=6(x-3)+9[/tex]

But since we are dealing with the tangent, why can't we write the above equation as:

[tex]y=\frac{dy}{dx}(x-3)+dy[/tex]
The dy/dx in place of f' is fine but dy is NOT 9!

Since [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=6[/tex] from which [tex]dy=6dx[/tex], we can rewrite the above as:

[tex]6(x-3)+6dx=6(x-3)+6(3)=6(x-3)+18[/tex]

Why this equation and the first equation aren't the same?
Again, it is because the added "9" is NOT dy and so not "6dx". You are not distinguishing between "dy/dx" and "[itex]\Delta y/\Delta x[/itex]"
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \lim_{\Delta x\to 0}\frac{\Delta y}{\Delta x}[/tex]
You can't just ignore the limit.

How else can the equation of tangent line be written in terms of dys and dxs?
Well, if y= (dy/dx)(x- a)+ y(a) then dx(y- y(a))= dy(x-a). Does that help? It is at least more "symmetric" than the usual form.
 

Related to Using differentials in the equation of tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3

1. What is the equation for finding the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3 using differentials?

The equation for finding the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3 using differentials is y = f'(3)(x-3) + f(3), where f'(3) represents the derivative of the function f(x) at x=3.

2. How is the equation for the tangent line derived using differentials?

The equation for the tangent line to the curve x^2 at point 3 using differentials is derived by using the definition of a derivative, which is the limit of the difference quotient as the change in x approaches 0. This leads to the slope of the tangent line being equal to the derivative of the function at the given point, and the point-slope form of a line is then used to find the equation.

3. Can the equation for the tangent line be used to find the slope of the curve at point 3?

Yes, the equation for the tangent line can be used to find the slope of the curve at point 3. Since the slope of the tangent line is equal to the derivative of the function at that point, plugging in the x-value of 3 into the derivative will give the slope at that point.

4. What is the significance of using differentials in finding the equation of the tangent line?

Using differentials allows for a more accurate and precise approximation of the tangent line to the curve at a specific point. It takes into account the infinitesimal change in the function at that point, resulting in a closer approximation of the slope and the line.

5. Are there any limitations to using differentials in finding the equation of the tangent line?

Yes, there are limitations to using differentials in finding the equation of the tangent line. It is only applicable for finding the tangent line at a specific point on a curve and cannot be used for finding the equation of the tangent line at multiple points on the curve. Additionally, it assumes that the function is differentiable at that point.

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