Understanding Flame Tests: Exploring Sodium and Chloride

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In summary, the flame test involves introducing a sample to a hot, non-luminous flame and observing the color of the flame. This is based on the idea that sample atoms evaporate and emit light in the flame. To get accurate results, the compound is usually made into a paste with concentrated hydrochloric acid, as metal halides give better results. Different flames should be tried to avoid contaminated data. In high-school chemistry, wooden splints or nichrome wire are often used for this test. The Wikipedia text has some editing errors but halides are typically more volatile than other salts, making them good for this test. Sodium's flame color comes from promoted electrons falling back from the 3p1 level to their normal 3s
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I was reading about flame test and need your to understand few points.

The test involves introducing a sample of the element or compound to a hot, non-luminous flame, and observing the color of the flame that results. The idea of the test is that sample atoms evaporate and since they are hot, they emit light when being in flame. Bulk sample emits light too, but its light is not good for analysis. Bulk samples emit light with hydrochloric acid to remove traces of previous analytes.[1] The compound is usually made into a paste with concentrated hydrochloric acid, as metal halides, being volatile, give better results. Different flames should be tried to avoid wrong data due to "contaminated" flames, or occasionally to verify the accuracy of the color. In high-school chemistry courses, wooden splints are sometimes used, mostly because solutions can be dried onto them, and they are inexpensive. Nichrome wire is also sometimes used.[1] When using a splint, one must be careful to wave the splint through the flame rather than holding it in the flame for extended periods, to avoid setting the splint itself on fire.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_test#Process

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My question is about the part in red in the quoted text above. What does it mean when it says, "with hydrochloric acid to remove traces of previous analytes"?

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It also says, "The compound is usually made into a paste with concentrated hydrochloric acid, as metal halides, being volatile, give better results."

Sodium is a metal and sodium chloride is a metal halide. It's not volatile. Shouldn't the statement be qualified something like "...as metal halides, being GENERALLY volatile..."?

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The shown below is an electron configuration for sodium. In the compound sodium chloride the valence electron of sodium has been taken away by chlorine. In other words, sodium is left with its full 2p orbital. Is it electron(s) of 2p orbital which makes energetic transition to 3s orbital and then fall back to original 2p orbital and emit visible light photon?
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Source: https://terpconnect.umd.edu/~wbreslyn/chemistry/electron-configurations/configurationSodium.html
Helpful links:
1: https://www.quora.com/Does-pure-met...ts-I-know-metal-ions-do-how-about-pure-metals
2: https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-recommendations-for-a-chemistry-flame-test
3: https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/75303/why-flame-color-of-salts-is-determined-by-metal
4: https://socratic.org/questions/why-are-chlorides-used-in-flame-test
 
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I have no idea what the wikipedia text says (not that it helps, but you are not alone in being lost).

Halides are typically more volatile than other salts. Anions are relatively small and just -1, compared with most oxoacids which are either much bulkier (with additional oxygen atoms), more charged (-2, -3) or both.

Sodium color: Sodium's familiar bright orange-yellow flame color results from promoted electrons falling back from the 3p1 level to their normal 3s1 level.
 
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This is just the result of some editing errors.
On 17 march 2021, the Wikipedia page contained 2 versions of "how does a flame test work", that heavily overlapped. . On 25 march a large section of the first version was deleted, just before "Bulk samples emit light with hydrochloric acid", leaving this sentence imcomprehensible. Easiest way to fix, is just to ignore this sentence. Maybe finding the last version that doesn't mention "Bulk samples" would be even better.
 
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Thank you!

Borek said:
Halides are typically more volatile than other salts. Anions are relatively small and just -1, compared with most oxoacids which are either much bulkier (with additional oxygen atoms), more charged (-2, -3) or both.

I think I was right about the rephrasing of Wikipedia article. Sodium chloride is a halide but it's not volatile therefore the rephrasing "...as metal halides, being GENERALLY volatile..." is not a bad idea. Please see below.

What are Halogens and Halides?
When examining the periodic table, you will find that halogens are the electronegative elements in column 17, including fluorine (F), chlorine (Cl), bromine (Br), iodine (I), and astatine (At).

Halides are chemical compounds that contain halogens. Halides are present in nature with some — namely salts and acids — being essential to human life. Halides can be found in minerals, animals, and plants. The best-known halide is NaCl: table salt.
Source: https://www.nordson.com/en/divisions/efd/blog/102518-halogens-and-halides

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Sodium color: Sodium's familiar bright orange-yellow flame color results from promoted electrons falling back from the 3p1 level to their normal 3s1 level.

I don't see how sodium has a valence electron in its 3s1 level in case of sodium chloride. Please see below and please guide me.

The shown below is an electron configuration for sodium. In the compound sodium chloride the valence electron of sodium has been taken away by chlorine. In other words, sodium is left with its full 2p orbital. Is it electron(s) of 2p orbital which makes energetic transition to 3s orbital and then fall back to original 2p orbital and emit visible light photon?
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Source: https://terpconnect.umd.edu/~wbreslyn/chemistry/electron-configurations/configurationSodium.html
 
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PainterGuy said:
I don't see how sodium has a valence electron in its 3s1 level in case of sodium chloride. Please see below and please guide me.

Once it gets airborne everything can happen, some ions become just atoms, grabbing electrons from other ions. Not many of these (most sodium is still in form of ions), but the transition is very common and easy to observe.
 
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Borek said:
Once it gets airborne everything can happen, some ions become just atoms, grabbing electrons from other ions. Not many of these (most sodium is still in form of ions), but the transition is very common and easy to observe.

Thank you but I'm sorry that I don't follow you. If sodium chloride is in powder form, both sodium and chlorine ions act as a one single unit joined together very strongly. I don't see how and where sodium ion would grab an electron to become an atom. On the other hand, sodium atom would react with oxygen in air.
 
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If sodium chloride is in powder form, both sodium and chlorine ions act as a one single unit joined together very strongly.

Not exactly. They are separate ions, just ordered in the crystal. There is no "single unit". On evaporation (or dissolution) each one goes on its own. Sure, they do attract each other, but they are not a single unit.

PainterGuy said:
I don't see how and where sodium ion would grab an electron to become an atom.

In the flame there are plenty of charged things that will both grab and donate electrons.

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On the other hand, sodium atom would react with oxygen in air.
Yes, once it gets into a cool part of the flame it will stabilize itself in some compound. Not so easily and not so quick in the flame itself, and the amount of sodium atoms created (not all ions will become atoms, only a fraction) and their half time are enough to produce visible sodium light.
 
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1. What is the purpose of a flame test?

The purpose of a flame test is to identify the presence of certain elements in a substance by observing the color of the flame produced when the substance is burned. Each element produces a unique color, allowing for identification.

2. How does a flame test work?

A flame test works by heating a substance in a flame and observing the color of the flame. The heat excites the electrons in the atoms of the substance, causing them to jump to higher energy levels. When the electrons return to their original energy levels, they release energy in the form of light, which produces the characteristic color of the flame.

3. What elements are commonly tested using flame tests?

The most commonly tested elements using flame tests are alkali metals, such as sodium and potassium, and halogens, such as chlorine and bromine. These elements are known to produce distinct and easily identifiable colors in a flame.

4. What are the safety precautions when conducting a flame test?

When conducting a flame test, it is important to wear safety goggles and gloves to protect against potential hazards. It is also important to work in a well-ventilated area and to use small amounts of the substance being tested to avoid large flames. Lastly, proper disposal of the substances and cleaning of equipment should be done to prevent contamination or accidents.

5. What are the limitations of a flame test?

A flame test is limited in its ability to identify elements because some elements may produce similar colors in a flame. It also cannot detect elements that do not produce a visible flame, such as noble gases. Additionally, the presence of impurities in the substance being tested can affect the color of the flame, leading to inaccurate results.

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