Technical question about Nikolic' Quantum Myths

In summary, formula 26 defines the norm of a vector as\langle\psi|\psi\rangle = \psi_1^*\psi_1 + \psi_2^*\psi_2 .Formula 28 states that p_1=|\langle \phi_1|\psi\rangle|^2 which contradicts the equation in the paragraph before formula 24, where it reads p_1=\psi_1^*\psi_1.
  • #1
birulami
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I am referring to the http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0609163" discussed at length in other threads with a purely technical question to help me understand more of the paper.

On page 12, formula 26 defines the norm of a vector as

[tex]\langle\psi|\psi\rangle = \psi_1^*\psi_1 + \psi_2^*\psi_2 .[/tex]

My question is: isn't there a square root missing to get a norm. When I look up my lecture notes on functional analysis, a norm on a Hilbert space is defined by

[tex]||f|| = \sqrt{(f,f)}[/tex]

where [itex](\cdot,\cdot)[/itex] is the scalar product. If the above formula 26 would nevertheless be correct, I would end up with a scalar product with a square in, which is not linear and therefore not a scalar product.

What am I confusing here?

Thanks,
Harald.
 
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  • #2
Square root is indeed missing. Or he meant to write norm squared.
 
  • #3
lbrits said:
Or he meant to write norm squared.
Yes he did. :wink:

Even the the mass squared is sometimes called mass by physicists, especially relativists. :smile:
 
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technical question about Nikolic' Quantum Myths (2nd round)

Thanks for the answers so far. Reading on in http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0609163" , I next stumble over formula 28. There I get

[tex]p_1=|\langle \phi_1|\psi\rangle|^2 = |\sqrt{1^*\psi_1 + 0\psi_2}|^2 = |\sqrt{\psi_1}|^2 =
|\psi_1| = \sqrt{\psi_1^*\psi_1} .[/tex]

This, however, contradicts the equation in the paragraph before formula 24, where it reads [itex]p_1 = \psi_1^*\psi_1[/itex].

My question is, whether formula 28 should rather start with [itex]\sqrt{p_1}[/itex] or whether actually it should read [itex]p_1 = \sqrt{\psi_1^*\psi1}[/itex] in the paragraph before 24?

Thanks,
Harald
 
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birulami said:
[tex]
|\langle \phi_1|\psi\rangle|^2 = |\sqrt{1^*\psi_1 + 0\psi_2}|^2
[/tex]
This is wrong. The correct statement is
[tex]
|\langle \phi_1|\psi\rangle|^2 = |1^*\psi_1 + 0\psi_2|^2
[/tex]
To repeat, <a|a> denotes the norm SQUARED.
 
  • #6
Demystifier said:
This is wrong. The correct statement is
[tex]
|\langle \phi_1|\psi\rangle|^2 = |1^*\psi_1 + 0\psi_2|^2
[/tex]
To repeat, <a|a> denotes the norm SQUARED.

Arrrgh, this missing square of the norm got me all messed up. I should have read my own initial post:confused:.

Thanks for getting me back on the right track.
Harald.
 

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