Showing that there is no embedding between groups

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In summary, two groups can have the same number of elements but still not be isomorphic because isomorphism also considers the structure and operations. An embedding preserves the group's structure and operations, while an isomorphism is a bijective embedding. A group can be embedded into itself through the trivial embedding. To show that there is no embedding between two groups, we can look for structural differences. There are groups that cannot be embedded into each other, such as the cyclic group of order 4 and the symmetric group of order 3.
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Homework Statement


Show that there exists and embedding or show that an embedding can't exist between Z3 and Z.

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to find an embedding and can't so I've decided that an embedding can't exist but how does one show this?

Any suggestions would be great.
 
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Hint: in [itex]\mathbb{Z}_3[/itex], we have 1+1+1=0.
 

Related to Showing that there is no embedding between groups

1. Can two groups have the same number of elements but still not be isomorphic?

Yes, two groups can have the same number of elements but still not be isomorphic. This is because isomorphism not only considers the number of elements, but also the structure and operations of the groups.

2. What is the difference between an embedding and an isomorphism?

An embedding is a function that preserves the structure and operation of a group, whereas an isomorphism is a bijective embedding that also preserves the structure and operation of the group.

3. Can a group be embedded into itself?

Yes, a group can be embedded into itself through the identity function, where each element is mapped to itself. This is known as the trivial embedding.

4. How can we show that there is no embedding between two groups?

To show that there is no embedding between two groups, we can look for structural differences between the two groups. If there are elements or operations in one group that do not exist in the other, then an embedding cannot exist.

5. Are there any groups that cannot be embedded into each other?

Yes, there are groups that cannot be embedded into each other. For example, the cyclic group of order 4 cannot be embedded into the symmetric group of order 3, as the symmetric group does not have an element of order 4.

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