Show 2 lie algebras are not isomorphic

In summary, \mathfrak{g} is a Lie algebra with basis vectors E, F, and G satisfying certain Lie bracket relations, while \mathfrak{h} is a Lie algebra consisting of 3x3 matrices with specific entries and a defined Lie bracket. Additionally, \mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C} is a Lie algebra consisting of diagonal 3x3 matrices with complex entries, where the Lie bracket is defined as the matrix commutator. It is known that \mathfrak{g}\cong \mathfrak{h}, but it can be shown that \mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak
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Homework Statement



• [itex]\mathfrak{g}[/itex] is the Lie algebra with basis vectors [itex]E,F,G[/itex] such that the following relations for Lie brackets are satisfied:

[itex][E,F]=G,\;\;[E,G]=0,\;\;[F,G]=0.[/itex]

• [itex]\mathfrak{h}[/itex] is the Lie algebra consisting of 3x3 matrices of the form

[itex]\begin{bmatrix} 0 & a & c \\ 0 & 0 & b \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}[/itex] where [itex]a,b,c[/itex] are any complex numbers. The vector addition and scalar multiplication on [itex]\mathfrak{h}[/itex] are the usual operations on matrices.

The Lie bracket on [itex]\mathfrak{h}[/itex] is defined as the matrix commutator: [itex][X,Y] = XY - YX[/itex] for any [itex]X,Y \in \mathfrak{h}.[/itex]

• [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}[/itex] is the Lie algebra consisting of 3x3 diagonal matrices with complex entries with Lie bracket [itex][X,Y]=0[/itex] for all [itex]X,Y \in\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}[/itex].

(We know [itex]\mathfrak{g}\cong \mathfrak{h}[/itex].)

Show that [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak{g}[/itex] and [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak{h}[/itex].

The Attempt at a Solution



A basis for [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}[/itex] is [tex]\left\{ E=\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} , F=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} , G=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix} \right\}[/tex]

Is it sufficient to show that [itex][E,F]=0,\;[E,G]=0,\;[F,G]=0[/itex] which doesn't satisfy all the lie bracket relations in [itex]\mathfrak{g}[/itex] so [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak{g}[/itex]?

And since [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak{g}\cong \mathfrak{h},\;\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak{h}[/itex] but to show it:

[itex]X=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} , Y=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}\in \mathfrak{h}[/itex]

but [itex][X,Y]=XY-YX=\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix} \neq \begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}[/itex]

so 2 matrices in [itex]\mathfrak{h}[/itex] don't satisfy the Lie bracket in [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}[/itex] so [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak{h}[/itex]?

So is all I need to do to show 2 lie algebras are not isomorphic is to provide a counterexample of how matrices in 1 lie algebra don't satisfy the lie bracket in another lie algebra; therefore the 2 lie algebras can't be isomorphic as isomorphisms preserve lie brackets?
 
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Ted123 said:
Is it sufficient to show that [itex][E,F]=0,\;[E,G]=0,\;[F,G]=0[/itex] which doesn't satisfy all the lie bracket relations in [itex]\mathfrak{g}[/itex] so [itex]\mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}\ncong\mathfrak{g}[/itex]?

Just because you picked a map which isn't an isomorphism doesn't mean that no isomorphism exists. To give an example of this argument for inner product spaces:
A=R3 is not isomorphic to B=R3 because A has a basis of (1,0,0),(1,1,0),(1,1,1), and B has a basis of (1,0,0),(0,1,0),(0,0,1). The inner product of every pair of basis vectors of B is zero, which isn't the case for A, so they are not isomorphic as inner product spaces.

All we really learned is that different bases can have different properties (for inner products or for lie brackets)
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Just because you picked a map which isn't an isomorphism doesn't mean that no isomorphism exists. To give an example of this argument for inner product spaces:
A=R3 is not isomorphic to B=R3 because A has a basis of (1,0,0),(1,1,0),(1,1,1), and B has a basis of (1,0,0),(0,1,0),(0,0,1). The inner product of every pair of basis vectors of B is zero, which isn't the case for A, so they are not isomorphic as inner product spaces.

All we really learned is that different bases can have different properties (for inner products or for lie brackets)

Yeah I see what you're saying.

Is it true that if [itex]\mathfrak{g}\cong \mathfrak{h}[/itex] and [itex]\mathfrak{g}\ncong \mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}[/itex] then [itex]\mathfrak{h}\ncong \mathfrak{d}_3 \mathbb{C}[/itex]?
 

Related to Show 2 lie algebras are not isomorphic

1. How do you define an isomorphism between two lie algebras?

An isomorphism between two lie algebras is a bijective mapping that preserves the algebraic operations, namely the Lie bracket operation, between the two algebras. This means that the structure and relationships of the elements in one algebra are preserved in the other algebra.

2. What are the key properties that must be checked to prove that two lie algebras are not isomorphic?

To show that two lie algebras are not isomorphic, we need to check certain key properties. These include the dimensions of the algebras, the ranks of the algebras, and the structure of the Lie bracket operation. If any of these properties differ between the two algebras, then they cannot be isomorphic.

3. Can two lie algebras with different bases be isomorphic?

No, two lie algebras with different bases cannot be isomorphic. The basis of a lie algebra is a fundamental part of its structure, and any isomorphism between two algebras must preserve this structure. If the bases are different, then the structure of the algebras will also be different, making them not isomorphic.

4. Is it possible for two lie algebras to have the same structure but not be isomorphic?

Yes, it is possible for two lie algebras to have the same structure, but not be isomorphic. This can happen when the two algebras have the same dimension and rank, and their Lie bracket operations are the same, but their bases are different. In this case, although the structure is the same, the mapping between the two algebras is not bijective, and thus they are not isomorphic.

5. What is the significance of showing that two lie algebras are not isomorphic?

Showing that two lie algebras are not isomorphic is important because it helps us understand the differences and similarities between the two algebras. This can provide insight into the underlying structure and properties of the algebras, and can also be useful in various mathematical and scientific applications such as in the study of symmetry, differential equations, and physics.

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