Ship's mass/displacement, buoyancy

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In summary: Displacement can be approximated fairly closely by weight, though there will be occasional inaccuracies.
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Ok, so I've a couple of assignments that require the understanding of the basic principles of buoyancy and displacement of a ship and I'm a bit confused.

Consider a ship that has a displacement of 7 000 000 kg. That's the mass of the water that the ships displacement "pushes out" from its way, right? So why is it generally stated that displacement = mass of the ship (for example Wikipedia states this)?

If the buoyancy force acting on the ship = water density * g * displacement volume.
Now if we solve for the volume, we have a displacement volume (water density 1000kg/m3)
of 7000m3. Now, if we assume that the ship and the displacement are "fully wooden", so no empty spaces, the mass is 7000m3 * wood density, say 700kg/m3, = 4 900 000kg. So what's wrong here?

Generally speaking, is the displacement of a ship always the same? I mean, it cannot always be just the same amount of water that it's displacing because the ship has to go up an down from time to time. Why are the size of the ships demonstrated by the displacement if this is the case?

The other thing about the buoyancy: if we have an object laying at the bottom of the sea, is there a buoyancy force acting on it? I can't find any clear statement about this.

I realize that these should be easy subjects but I'm quite poor with physics so don't be too rough on me :)
 
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Consider a ship that has a displacement of 7 000 000 kg. That's the mass of the water that the ships displacement "pushes out" from its way, right? So why is it generally stated that displacement = mass of the ship (for example Wikipedia states this)?
This is Archimedes's principle. Assuming the ship is floating, the upward buoyant force equals the weight of displaced fluid and balances the downward weight of the ship.

If the buoyancy force acting on the ship = water density * g * displacement volume.
Now if we solve for the volume, we have a displacement volume (water density 1000kg/m3)
of 7000m3. Now, if we assume that the ship and the displacement are "fully wooden", so no empty spaces, the mass is 7000m3 * wood density, say 700kg/m3, = 4 900 000kg. So what's wrong here?
The volume of the ship does not equal the volume of displaced water--it is greater.

Generally speaking, is the displacement of a ship always the same? I mean, it cannot always be just the same amount of water that it's displacing because the ship has to go up an down from time to time. Why are the size of the ships demonstrated by the displacement if this is the case?
I'm not sure what you're asking here.

The other thing about the buoyancy: if we have an object laying at the bottom of the sea, is there a buoyancy force acting on it? I can't find any clear statement about this.
It depends on how the object is in contact with the bottom. If the object is stuck in mud (for example) so that the seal is water-tight, then the net force from the surrounding water actually presses the object into the bottom.
 
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Doc Al, thanks for your answers.

Ok, so basically what I want to know is this. If there's stated that a displacement of a certain ship is 9000 tons, can I take it so that the ship's mass is 9000 tons?

Clarifying the third question: For example Titanic had a displacement of 52,310 tons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic). What if you add weight to the ship, the displacement has to change, right? Isn't that quite an inconvenient way of expressing the size of a ship, since you can't really know how much weight it carries from time to time?
 
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Ok, so basically what I want to know is this. If there's stated that a displacement of a certain ship is 9000 tons, can I take it so that the ship's mass is 9000 tons?
Yes. (But see the link below.)

Clarifying the third question: For example Titanic had a displacement of 52,310 tons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic). What if you add weight to the ship, the displacement has to change, right?
Of course: the literal displacement will increase if weight is added. But it depends on what displacement they are quoting. Is it the fully-loaded displacement? See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(ship)"
Isn't that quite an inconvenient way of expressing the size of a ship, since you can't really know how much weight it carries from time to time?
Not necessarily.
 
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Related to Ship's mass/displacement, buoyancy

1. What is the difference between a ship's mass and displacement?

The mass of a ship refers to the amount of matter it contains, while displacement refers to the weight of water that the ship displaces when it is floating. Mass is usually measured in kilograms, while displacement is measured in tons.

2. How is a ship's buoyancy determined?

A ship's buoyancy is determined by its shape and size, as well as the density of the water it is floating in. The more water a ship displaces, the greater its buoyancy will be.

3. What is the relationship between a ship's mass and its buoyancy?

A ship's mass does not affect its buoyancy, as buoyancy is determined by the amount of water displaced. However, the mass of a ship can affect its stability and how much weight it can carry without sinking.

4. How does the displacement of a ship affect its performance?

The displacement of a ship can affect its performance in terms of speed and maneuverability. A ship with a higher displacement will require more power to move through the water, which can affect its speed. It can also make it more difficult for the ship to turn or change directions quickly.

5. Can a ship's buoyancy change?

Yes, a ship's buoyancy can change depending on its load. If more weight is added to a ship, it will displace more water and have greater buoyancy. However, if too much weight is added, the ship may become unstable and sink.

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