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pinball1970
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Rough as hell. Off work. Banging head aching all over. Just the Covid jab. I can read and type though.
Water paracetamol bed.
Water paracetamol bed.
It is my understanding that the muscle soreness is in fact a primary part of the immune response. (I mention this as more of a question than a statement of fact )... ?Mayhem said:(what do you expect from having a needle inserted into a muscle?)
That's my understanding, it is more than just damaged muscle and nerve endings, it is an actual immune response. That is where the antigen is.hutchphd said:It is my understanding that the muscle soreness is in fact a primary part of the immune response. (I mention this as more of a question than a statement of fact )... ?
Bivalent vaccine? Pfizer or Moderna?pinball1970 said:Rough as hell. Off work. Banging head aching all over. Just the Covid jab. I can read and type though.
Water paracetamol bed.
Spikevax Bivalent Original / Omicron.Astronuc said:Bivalent vaccine? Pfizer or Moderna?
I found this "Spikevax (previously COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna)"pinball1970 said:Spikevax Bivalent Original / Omicron.
elasomeran/imelasomeran and elasomeran
Spikevax contains elasomeran, a molecule called messenger RNA (mRNA) with instructions for producing a protein from the original strain of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
Spikevax is also available as an adapted vaccine called Spikevax bivalent Original/Omicron BA.1 which contains elasomeran and an additional mRNA molecule, imelasomeran, with instructions for producing a protein from the Omicron BA.1 subvariant of SARS-CoV-2.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...are-professionals-on-covid-19-vaccine-modernaThis is a multidose vial that contains 10 doses of 0.5 mL each or a maximum of 20 doses of 0.25mL each.
One dose (0.5 mL) contains 100 micrograms of elasomeran, a COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine (embedded in SM-102 lipid nanoparticles).
One dose (0.25 mL) contains 50 micrograms of of elasomeran, a COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine (embedded in SM-102 lipid nanoparticles).
Elasomeran is a single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced using a cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates, encoding the viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2.
I got mine an hour ago.pinball1970 said:Spikevax Bivalent Original / Omicron.
Same one? Have paracetamol and water at hand. I had jab at 1 pm went to bed early and symptoms probably peaked @3am.PeroK said:I got mine an hour ago.
Yes.pinball1970 said:Same one?
I've learned something today. Even a Roman god needs a COVID vaccination!Janus said:I have mine scheduled for later today.
It seems strange to be offering the 4th Booster now when the current Covid 19 wave is ending, March / April seems far more sensible. The maximum level of protection still appears to be quite short lived, certainly antibody levels start to fall, around 15 weeks following the injection, surprisingly they appear to fall more slowly in the elderly.bhobba said:Here in Aus, because we are entering the summer months, it has been decided to initially limit it to people who have not got the 4th booster yet. While not decided yet, it is thought that everyone will get it about March/April next year when we are due for our flu shot. The combined Covid/Flu vaccine may be available then.
For the full picture of what is happening in Australia:
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/case-numbers-and-statistics
Interestingly, Australia's seven-day average death rate is now just four and declining. Combine this with the fact that only 4% of those that die have had the 4th dose, and it is easily seen that your risk of death, while now low, is very low if you have had the 4th dose. Again - please, please get the 4th dose. As only 30% of people in Aus (about 40% of those eligible ie over 30) have had the 4th dose, the protection would be about 86% less likely to die. Remember, this is Australia - I have read in other countries, it can be a bit different - eg in Isreal, it is 78%. I believe everyone should get the fourth dose, just a personal opinion. The consensus in Aus is if you are under 30, your chance of dying is very small anyway. I believe it has been established, at least on the Gold Coast near where I live, that 90% of people with Covid do not even know it and carry on with life as usual. Anything we can do to reduce the length of time you are infectious will help. It is not just the death rate that is a concern - so is long Covid.
Thanks
Bill
Laroxe said:It seems strange to be offering the 4th Booster now when the current Covid 19 wave is ending, March / April seems far more sensible.
Are we (UK) not now officially in Flu season or was that more for Oz/Bill?Laroxe said:It seems strange to be offering the 4th Booster now when the current Covid 19 wave is ending, March / April seems far more sensible. The maximum level of protection still appears to be quite short lived, certainly antibody levels start to fall, around 15 weeks following the injection, surprisingly they appear to fall more slowly in the elderly.
Its worth remembering that we are only starting to see publication of research on the effectiveness of the 3rd dose and there is still debate on the balance of risks with a 4th dose in young healthy individuals.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)01971-7/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00141-4/fulltext
Any symptoms?PeroK said:I got mine an hour ago.
Not really. Sore arm and a bit tired, perhaps.pinball1970 said:Any symptoms?
That's good. I still feel groggy but I will go for a walk later. This amount of time in bed can put one out of sorts.PeroK said:Not really. Sore arm and a bit tired, perhaps.
Well, because some of us can't seem to keep from commingling with mortals, one does have to take precautions.PeroK said:I've learned something today. Even a Roman god needs a COVID vaccination!
Pythagorean said:I don't have auto immune disorders but having it happen to someone close to me made me worry about it for a couple days, despite knowing logically that it was with vanishing probability it would happen to me.
WHAT Heart Issues? Too muddy the terminology so not know what that means.bhobba said:It has now been reported, if I remember correctly, there is an 80% increase in heart issues with mRNA vaccines and the young. This has, understandably, concerned many. But again, when balancing risk vs reward, things are somewhat different:
symbolipoint said:WHAT Heart Issues? Too muddy the terminology so not know what that means.
They vaxxed you even though you were under the weather? Or did you check the wrong box on the survey form while in line for the vax?hmmm27 said:Knocked me right out for the weekend.
I'm still in bed from 9pm Wed. I think I was the same last year.Astronuc said:I had posted about getting vaccines for Covid (SARS-Cov-2), RSV and Influenza.
Only a bit of soreness at the injection site of one (don't remember which one, but it might have been RSV adjacent to Covid in my left deltoid). I lifted weights before and after. I didn't feel any effects, e.g., fatigue or other noteworthy reaction.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...9-version-ba-2-ba-4-ba-5.1012505/post-6938939
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...9-version-ba-2-ba-4-ba-5.1012505/post-6939180
Lots of folks around us have developed Covid following group gatherings, some for a second time. It's still going around, and some folks, usually older are being hospitalized.