Re-arranging equation: negative time for exponential

In summary, The conversation involves a sequence with a specific formula and a solution derived from a differential equation. The solution involves finding a negative time value, which is possible if the equation or k is incorrect. There is also an analytical solution involving a geometric expression, but it is difficult to solve.
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1. Homework Statement
I have a sequence whereby
10000=100(1+e^(kt)+e^(2kt)+...+e^(39kt)) where k=-4.7947012×10^(-3) which was dervied from dy/dt=ky
Re-arranging i get 99=1+e^(kt)+e^(2kt)+...+e^(39kt), letting e^(kt)=r I put it into the computer and
i get 1.04216=r=e^-4.7947012×10^(-3)t
taking ln of both sides and dividing by the number gives a negative time value. Any help is highly appreciate.
 
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With a negative k, t has to be negative, too. That is a correct solution of the equation. If a negative time value is impossible, your equation (or k) has to be wrong.

There is an analytic solution, by the way.
 
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Analytical, how so?
 
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Is it by stating that, if assuming that all doses haven't decayed, the maxmimum amount is 3900 only.
 
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mfb said:
With r=e^(kt), your equation gets 99=r^0 + r^1 + r^2 + ... + r^39
That is a geometric expression, and has a nice formula.

Right. And that gives you a degree = 40 polynomial to solve---not easy at all, and I doubt there is an analytical formula for its solution.
 
  • #7
Hmm, you are right. Well, at least it is easier to solve it numerically that way (which does not matter if a computer solves it).
 

Related to Re-arranging equation: negative time for exponential

1. How can negative time be incorporated into an exponential equation?

Negative time can be incorporated into an exponential equation by using the property that any number raised to a negative exponent is equal to the reciprocal of that number raised to the positive exponent. This means that if we have an exponential equation with a negative exponent, we can rewrite it as 1 divided by the same equation with a positive exponent.

2. What does a negative time value represent in an exponential equation?

A negative time value in an exponential equation represents a time that has passed before the initial starting point. This can be thought of as a time in the past or before the experiment or process began. It is important to note that negative time values are only applicable in certain situations and may not always make sense in every context.

3. Can an exponential equation with a negative time value have a real solution?

Yes, an exponential equation with a negative time value can have a real solution. This is because the negative time value can be cancelled out by the property mentioned above, allowing for a valid solution to be obtained. However, it is important to carefully consider the context of the problem and whether a negative time value makes sense in that situation.

4. Are there any restrictions when using negative time in an exponential equation?

Yes, there are some restrictions when using negative time in an exponential equation. One restriction is that the base of the exponential equation must be a positive real number. This is because a negative base raised to a negative exponent cannot be simplified to a real number. Additionally, negative time values may not always make sense in every context and should be used with caution.

5. Can negative time be used in any type of exponential function?

Negative time can be used in any type of exponential function, as long as the restrictions mentioned above are met. This includes exponential functions with a constant base, a base that is a variable, and even complex exponential functions. However, as mentioned before, it is important to carefully consider the context and whether a negative time value is appropriate for that situation.

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