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coincidence & consciousness
I was thinking that if you knew all information about the Big Bang, then you would be able to, with a powerful enough computer, calculate the future(you could calculate every action of every particle and the result of it on all other particles, till the end of times).
But, as Heisenberg said:
So it is not possible to know the the exact position and movement of all particles, so he said:
And this brought me to the whole Quantum Mechanics stuff about probability. I am not sure if i got all of it right, but this is what i think i understood of it:
Physical reality is formed by the most probably outcome of observations. The most probable outcome is formed by physical reality.
So
A = physical reality
B = the most probable outcome
A shapes B
B shapes A
A = B
Then i remembered reading a website (princeton engineering anomalies research) http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/ , where they had discovered that human consciousness can influence various types of machinery(in predefined ways), even if the humans were thousands of miles removed from the machinery.
One quote from their abstracts:
So that would mean that human consciousness can influence the most probable outcome/physical reality. And it would also mean that there is some kind of communication between two human consciousnesses, because they both agree on what physical reality is like. For instance, 2 persons watching the tv news from 2 different locations, both see the same thing.
And even if no human observer is present(with 'present' let's assume 'in a 10 lightyear radius'), physical reality still exists.
So there is 'something' that determines what is most probable. And human consciousness is part of this 'something'.
Do you guys suppose this something must be conscious?
And does any of this rule out 'coincidence' or 'randomness', meaning that everything is predetermined?
I was thinking that if you knew all information about the Big Bang, then you would be able to, with a powerful enough computer, calculate the future(you could calculate every action of every particle and the result of it on all other particles, till the end of times).
But, as Heisenberg said:
The more precisely the position is determined, the less precisely the momentum is known in this instant, and vice versa.
--Heisenberg, uncertainty paper, 1927
So it is not possible to know the the exact position and movement of all particles, so he said:
In the sharp formulation of the law of causality-- "if we know the present exactly, we can calculate the future"-it is not the conclusion that is wrong but the premise.
--Heisenberg, in uncertainty principle paper, 1927
And this brought me to the whole Quantum Mechanics stuff about probability. I am not sure if i got all of it right, but this is what i think i understood of it:
Physical reality is formed by the most probably outcome of observations. The most probable outcome is formed by physical reality.
So
A = physical reality
B = the most probable outcome
A shapes B
B shapes A
A = B
Then i remembered reading a website (princeton engineering anomalies research) http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/ , where they had discovered that human consciousness can influence various types of machinery(in predefined ways), even if the humans were thousands of miles removed from the machinery.
One quote from their abstracts:
This book reexamines the role of consciousness in the light of a new body of experimental data on the interaction of human operators with various technical devices and information-processing systems. Many philosophical fibers are required to sift these results into a coherent model; but once the essential concepts are in place, human consciousness indeed emerges endowed with an active component. By virtue of the manner in which it exchanges information with its environment, orders that information, and interprets it, consciousness has the ability to bias probabilistic processes, and thereby to avail itself of certain margins of reality.
So that would mean that human consciousness can influence the most probable outcome/physical reality. And it would also mean that there is some kind of communication between two human consciousnesses, because they both agree on what physical reality is like. For instance, 2 persons watching the tv news from 2 different locations, both see the same thing.
And even if no human observer is present(with 'present' let's assume 'in a 10 lightyear radius'), physical reality still exists.
So there is 'something' that determines what is most probable. And human consciousness is part of this 'something'.
Do you guys suppose this something must be conscious?
And does any of this rule out 'coincidence' or 'randomness', meaning that everything is predetermined?
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