Quick logic question,SHM, second order differential equation

In summary, the attached diagram shows a particle with mass m being pulled down past its equilibrium position (e=l) by l/2 and then released. It is subject to a resistive force R and the equation of motion is mg - T - R = ma [1]. This is because the tension will oppose the gravitational force and the resistive force will act in the same direction as mg when the particle is released. If the equation is established at the instant of release, it would be Equation 2, where both the resistive force and the gravitational force point in the same direction. Equation 1 is never correct because the tension and resistive force must always be in opposite directions. This is assuming that the resistive force always opposes
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See attached diagram.
Taking downward as postive.
The particle is pulled down past its equiliburm position (e=l) by l/2 and then released.
It has mass m and is subject to a resistive force R.

Why is it that the equation is mg - T - R = ma [1]
as a pose to mg - T + R = ma.[2]

I understand that the tension will oppose mg, however as soon as it is released, it will oscillate upward and so the resistance will be downward, in the same direction as mg .

Or is it a case of the equation being derived at a precise instant in time, and so as it is pulled down , T will act upward, and R will act downward as it is pulled down. So the equation is derived at exactly the point of establishing the system?

However if you chose to establish the equation at the instant of release, when it moves upward and R is therefore downward, would the equation not be (2) - why is this? does T vary after relase also or...

Thanks alot.
 

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It would be Equation 2, in the sense that both the resistive force and the gravitational force point in the same direction. There is never any way for Equation 1 to be correct, because the tension and resistive force must always be oppositely directed (assuming by resistive force you do mean a force that always opposes the current velocity).
 

Related to Quick logic question,SHM, second order differential equation

1. What is SHM?

SHM stands for simple harmonic motion. It is a type of periodic motion in which an object oscillates back and forth around an equilibrium point with a constant amplitude and period.

2. What is a second order differential equation?

A second order differential equation is an equation that contains a function, its first derivative, and its second derivative. It is commonly used to describe physical phenomena such as motion and oscillations.

3. What is the equation for SHM?

The equation for SHM is x = A cos(ωt + φ), where x is the position of the object, A is the amplitude, ω is the angular frequency, and φ is the phase angle.

4. How do you solve a second order differential equation?

To solve a second order differential equation, you first need to rearrange it into the standard form, which is d²y/dt² + P(t)dy/dt + Q(t)y = R(t). Then, you can use various methods such as separation of variables, substitution, or the method of undetermined coefficients to find the solution.

5. What are some real-life examples of SHM?

Some real-life examples of SHM include a mass on a spring, a pendulum, a vibrating guitar string, and a swinging door. SHM can also be observed in natural phenomena such as ocean waves and sound waves.

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