Question regarding sound waves in musical instruments

In summary: C note, then you have experienced this phenomenon. The string on the C string on a piano will vibrate at the same frequency as the C note you are playing on the piano.If you play a C note on a guitar, you will be producing the fundamental frequency (C) and a rich set of overtones. Hence, playing a C on a tuba and on a guitar will produce different frequency contents.
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My question is regarding musical instruments. Their are waves produced in wind instruments and in stringed instruments. If a wind instrument (lets say a tuba) is played directly next to a stringed instrument (lets say a guitar) will the sounds waves (in air) produced by the wind instrument cause the strings of the stringed instrument to vibrate at a similar frequency? In other words, could sound waves of a certain frequency cause a guitar string to vibrate and produce a note/tone/harmonic? If so, what is the connection to the tones produced? Will sound waves of a certain frequency (like that which produces a C note) cause a guitar string to vibrate and produce that same frequency and note? Will this note be loud enough to hear effectively?

If anyone is familiar with an indian sitar, it has a set of strings played like a guitar with another set of strings underneath that vibrate and produce a range of tones based on the note that is plucked on the main strings. This is similar to what I described above, except strings are produced waves that vibrate other similar strings. I mentioned this as an example, in case it would help clarify what I was talking about.

If anyone has any insight or answers to this question, I would really appreciate it. I have tried to find the answer all over, but am getting confused by unrelated material. I apologize if my question sounds confusing. Thanks so much to anyone who can help!
 
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The short answer is yes, they will resonate. The extent to which this happens depends on the number of harmonics that the tones have in common. For example, if you tune the guitar to a major chord, you should be able to excite all the strings at once by blowing the appropriate "tonic" note on the wind instrument. As you have noted, this happens to a certain extent anyway with multiresonator instruments like the guitar.

Distinguishing the sounds (i.e. hearing them separately) will be difficult because they should sound the same.
 
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Guitar sounds eminate from the vibration of the bridge and body of the guitar. The strings are just a means to cause the bridge and body to vibrate. In the case of an adjacent wind instrument, the effect would be to cause the bridge, body, and strings to vibrate.
 
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Will sound waves of a certain frequency (like that which produces a C note) cause a guitar string to vibrate and produce that same frequency and note?

is a bit misleading, as when you play a C note on a guitar you're producing the fundamental (the C) and a very rich set of overtones. Hence playing C on a tuba and on a guitar would produce different frequency contents.

While you could cause any set of strings to resonate this way, your best bet would be to use an acoustic guitar, where the energy is stored in the cavity (the "body" of the guitar) and exchanged between the strings and cavity for quite a while. You will definitely be able to hear this but it would require a quiet environment and paying close attention.

Even clapping your hands strongly enough will excite the strings on your guitar (give it a try). Your clap produces a "delta function" in time which is (ideally) uniformly distributed in frequency space, exciting all strings on your guitar (although chances are you'll only be able to hear the low E string).

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Thanks! That clears up a lot.

Would the note or frequency of the waves effect which acoustic guitar strings would vibrate? Or will they all just vibrate randomly? In other words, would you be able to vibrate a specific string on a guitar (depending on its tuning) using a specific frequency sound wave?

Hypothetically speaking, if their was a small set of strings incorporated on the inside of a wind instrument, would playing the wind instrument vibrate the strings and produce a different, unique sound? Or would the wind instrument overpower the small sound from the strings. Would the wind instrument then act as a cavity to better amplify the sound
from the vibrating strings?

Thanks again!
 
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mgibson said:
My question is regarding musical instruments. Their are waves produced in wind instruments and in stringed instruments. If a wind instrument (lets say a tuba) is played directly next to a stringed instrument (lets say a guitar) will the sounds waves (in air) produced by the wind instrument cause the strings of the stringed instrument to vibrate at a similar frequency? In other words, could sound waves of a certain frequency cause a guitar string to vibrate and produce a note/tone/harmonic?

If you have ever, depressed the sustain pedal on a piano and sang a note directly into the harp, you may have noticed many strings ringing. The fundamental frequency is ringing and many harmonics. Sound is a pressure wave through a medium (in this case air). Strings will resonate at multiple frequencies relative to vibrational http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/resource/view.php?id=289481". The tuba and other musical instruments also exhibit this characteristic. that is what gives an instrument its unique sound quality. So my voice singing a single note into the harp of a piano, excites the fundamental frequency plus a whole range of harmonics associated with the spectral content of my voice. The tuba playing a note, near a guitar, will induce vibrations in the strings in the very same manner.
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Jeff Reid said:
Guitar sounds eminate from the vibration of the bridge and body of the guitar. The strings are just a means to cause the bridge and body to vibrate. In the case of an adjacent wind instrument, the effect would be to cause the bridge, body, and strings to vibrate.
Though the bridge and body do vibrate, it is the strings that exhibit particular modes of resonance. The bridge and body have more to do with timbre (quality) of the notes. If the strings were tuned differently, say 50 cent flat, the timbre would remain the same, but intensity of the fundamental frequency and the overtone series, would be quite different.
 
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Related to Question regarding sound waves in musical instruments

1. How do sound waves produce music in musical instruments?

Sound waves are created when an object vibrates and travels through a medium, such as air. In musical instruments, this vibration is caused by plucking, striking, or blowing the instrument. As the sound waves travel through the instrument, they are amplified and modified by the instrument's shape and materials, producing the unique sound of that instrument.

2. What are the different types of sound waves produced by musical instruments?

There are two main types of sound waves produced by musical instruments: longitudinal waves and transverse waves. Longitudinal waves, also known as compression waves, vibrate in the same direction as the wave travels. These are the most common type of sound wave produced in instruments such as flutes and clarinets. Transverse waves, also known as shear waves, vibrate perpendicular to the direction of the wave. These are commonly produced in instruments such as guitars and pianos.

3. How does the shape of a musical instrument affect the sound waves it produces?

The shape of a musical instrument plays a crucial role in the sound waves it produces. The size and shape of the instrument's resonating chamber determine the frequency and quality of the sound waves. Instruments with larger resonating chambers, such as tubas and cellos, produce lower frequencies and deeper sounds. In contrast, smaller chambers, like those found in piccolos and violins, produce higher frequencies and brighter sounds.

4. Can sound waves be manipulated to change the sound of a musical instrument?

Yes, sound waves can be manipulated to change the sound of a musical instrument. This can be achieved through various methods, such as adjusting the length or thickness of the instrument's strings, changing the shape of the instrument's resonating chamber, or using different materials for the instrument. These changes can affect the frequency, amplitude, and tone of the sound waves produced by the instrument.

5. How are sound waves measured in musical instruments?

Sound waves in musical instruments are measured using a unit called Hertz (Hz). This unit measures the frequency of the sound waves, which determines the pitch of the sound produced. The higher the frequency, the higher the pitch. In addition to frequency, sound waves can also be measured by their amplitude, which determines the loudness of the sound produced. Amplitude is measured in decibels (dB).

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