Proving a Subgroup: Homework Statement

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In summary, the student is trying to solve a problem involving a potential subgroup and proving that an element is in the subgroup if it is in the domain.
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Homework Statement



I got this question from contemporary abstract algebra :

http://gyazo.com/7a9e3f0603d1c0dcfde256e7b05276cd

Homework Equations



One step subgroup test :
1. Find my defining property.
2. Show that my potential subgroup is non-empty.
3. Assume that we have some a and b in our potential subgroup.
4. Prove that ab-1 is in our potential subgroup.

The Attempt at a Solution



1. Defining property : xh = hx for x in G and for all h in H.
2. C(H) ≠ ∅ because the identity element e is in C(H) and satisfies xe = ex.
3. Suppose a and b are in C(H), then xa = ax and xb = bx.

4. Show that ab-1 is in H whenever a and b are in H. So we want : xab-1 = ab-1x

Start with :

xa = ax
x(ab-1) = (ax)b-1
x(ab-1) = (xa)b-1
x(ab-1) = x(ab-1)
x(ab-1) = (ab-1)x

I know this is probably horribly wrong, but for some reason I can't seem to see how to do this properly. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Zondrina said:

Homework Statement



I got this question from contemporary abstract algebra :

http://gyazo.com/7a9e3f0603d1c0dcfde256e7b05276cd

Homework Equations



One step subgroup test :
1. Find my defining property.
2. Show that my potential subgroup is non-empty.
3. Assume that we have some a and b in our potential subgroup.
4. Prove that ab-1 is in our potential subgroup.

The Attempt at a Solution



1. Defining property : xh = hx for x in G and for all h in H.
2. C(H) ≠ ∅ because the identity element e is in C(H) and satisfies xe = ex.
3. Suppose a and b are in C(H), then xa = ax and xb = bx.

4. Show that ab-1 is in H whenever a and b are in H. So we want : xab-1 = ab-1x

Start with :

xa = ax
x(ab-1) = (ax)b-1
x(ab-1) = (xa)b-1
x(ab-1) = x(ab-1)
x(ab-1) = (ab-1)x

I know this is probably horribly wrong, but for some reason I can't seem to see how to do this properly. Any help would be appreciated.

You skipped a step. You need to show that if bx=xb then b^(-1)x=xb^(-1). You can't just assume it.
 
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Dick said:
You skipped a step. You need to show that if bx=xb then b^(-1)x=xb^(-1). You can't just assume it.

Ahhhh so it would be a sort of two step thing here.

First we want to show xb-1 = b-1x. So :

xb = bx
b-1xbb-1 = b-1bxb-1
b-1xe = exb-1
b-1x = xb-1

Now we can show that xab-1 = ab-1x. So :

xa = ax
x(ab-1) = a(xb-1)
x(ab-1) = (ab-1)x
 
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Zondrina said:
Ahhhh so it would be a sort of two step thing here.

First we want to show xb-1 = b-1x. So :

xb = bx
b-1xbb-1 = b-1bxb-1
b-1xe = exb-1
b-1x = xb-1

Now we can show that xab-1 = ab-1x. So :

xa = ax
x(ab-1) = a(xb-1)
x(ab-1) = (ab-1)x

Yes, that's it.
 
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Dick said:
Yes, that's it.

So we could conclude that C(H) ≤ G as desired. Thanks a bundle for your help :)
 

Related to Proving a Subgroup: Homework Statement

What is a subgroup?

A subgroup is a subset of a group that also forms a group under the same operation. It contains the identity element, and every element in the subgroup has an inverse within the subgroup.

How do you prove that a set is a subgroup?

To prove that a set is a subgroup, you must show that it satisfies the three conditions of a subgroup: closure, associativity, and the existence of an identity element and inverses. This can be done by showing that the set is closed under the group operation and that each element has an inverse within the set.

What is the difference between a subgroup and a proper subgroup?

A subgroup is a subset of a group that forms a group under the same operation, while a proper subgroup is a subgroup that is not equal to the original group. In other words, a proper subgroup is a subgroup that is a proper subset of the original group.

Can a subgroup have a different operation than the original group?

No, a subgroup must have the same operation as the original group in order to be considered a subgroup. However, the elements in the subgroup may be different from the elements in the original group.

What is the significance of proving a subgroup?

Proving a subgroup is important because it allows us to analyze the structure of a group and understand its properties better. It also helps us to identify and classify different types of groups, which has applications in various areas of mathematics and science.

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