Prove three points P, A and C are collinear

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem about a triangle $PQR$ and an interior point $A$ with certain angle conditions. The task is to prove that three points, $P,\,A,\,C$, are collinear. After a typo in the original problem, the conversation provides a correct version and two solutions, one of which is illustrated with a diagram. The solution involves constructing various elements and using angle properties to show that three line segments are collinear.
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Let $PQR$ be a triangle and let $A$ be an interior point such that $\angle QAR=90^{\circ}$, $\angle QBA=\angle QRA$.

Let $B,\,C$ be the midpoints of $PR,\,QR$ respectively. Suppose $QA=2AB$, prove that $P,\,A,\,C$ are collinear.
 
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anemone said:
Let $PQR$ be a triangle and let $A$ be an interior point such that $\angle QAR=90^{\circ}$, $\angle QBA=\angle QRA$.

Let $B,\,C$ be the midpoints of $PR,\,QR$ respectively. Suppose $QA=2AB$, prove that $P,\,A,\,C$ are collinear.
from the diagram it is clear :
[FONT=MathJax_Math-Web]P[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Main-Web],[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Math-Web]A[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Main-Web],[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Math-Web]C[/FONT] are collinear.

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Albert said:
from the diagram it is clear :
[FONT=MathJax_Math-Web]P[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Main-Web],[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Math-Web]A[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Main-Web],[/FONT][FONT=MathJax_Math-Web]C[/FONT] are collinear...

Hello Albert,

I don't think it is enough to post a diagram, and state that based on the diagram, the result is "clear." A diagram can be a useful aid, but it should at most be a supplement to a proof, not the proof itself.

I think the diagram should be accompanied by stated reasoning that inexorably leads to the desired conclusion. :D
 
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explanation of previous diagram:
$\triangle GAH , \triangle QAC $ both are equilateral triangles
$\therefore \angle GAH=\angle AQC=60^o$
in $\triangle PQC : \angle Q=90^o, \angle PCQ=2x=60^o$
$\therefore \angle QPC=30^o$
also in $\triangle PQA$ :$\angle PAQ=180^o-30^o-30^o=120^o$
and we have :$\angle QAC +\angle PAQ=60^o+120^o=180^o$
so points $P,A,C $ are collinear
 
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Words and tears aren't enough to tell how sorry I am as I just realized I have been posted a problem with a typo and that consequently changed the structure and meaning of the original problem entirely. This problem actually is a good India Olympiad Math Contest problem, but I bungled it with a typo. I am truly sorry.(Sadface)

I have certainly wasted a good time of those who attempted at this problem, for that I apologize. (Tmi)

The problem should read:

anemone said:
Let $PQR$ be a triangle and let $A$ be an interior point such that $\angle QAR=90^{\circ}$, \(\displaystyle \color{yellow}\bbox[5px,purple]{\angle QPA=\angle QRA}\).

Let $B,\,C$ be the midpoints of $PR,\,QR$ respectively. Suppose $QA=2AB$, prove that $P,\,A,\,C$ are collinear.
 
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please upload your original diagram
 
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Thank you Albert for your solution!

But, I don't think the given info suffices to deem the point $A$ as the barycenter of the triangle $PQR$; also, I don't quite follow how $\angle CAR=y$?:confused: I mean, of course $\angle CAR=y$, but, don't we have to prove that first before claiming such is the case?
 
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anemone said:
Thank you Albert for your solution!

But, I don't think the given info suffices to deem the point $A$ as the barycenter of the triangle $PQR$; also, I don't quite follow how $\angle CAR=y$?:confused: I mean, of course $\angle CAR=y$, but, don't we have to prove that first before claiming such is the case?
point A on circle C
AC=CR=QC, for
$\angle QAR=90^o$
 
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anemone said:
Thank you Albert for your solution!

But, I don't think the given info suffices to deem the point $A$ as the barycenter of the triangle $PQR$; also, I don't quite follow how $\angle CAR=y$?:confused: I mean, of course $\angle CAR=y$, but, don't we have to prove that first before claiming such is the case?
yes,you are right ,point A does not have to be the barycenter of triangle $PQR$ , but always lie on segment PC
(the prove and diagram is simiar to post #8)
in special case it will switch to its barycenter

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$\triangle PQC $ and $\triangle RQI$
$\theta=\beta+y$
$\angle CAR=\angle ARC= \angle QPA=\angle PAI=y$
for $\triangle PAI $ is similar to $\triangle RAC$
in this diagram point $A'$ is the barycenter of $\triangle PQR$
and point $A$ lies on segment PC ,is what we want
$\therefore$ point $P,A,C $ collinear
 

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Thanks Albert for your explanation and the second submission of the solution.

Here is the solution of other that I want to share:

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Extend $RA$ such that $RA=AS$. Let $\angle QRA=\angle QPA=\theta$.

Observe that $QA$ is the perpendicular bisector of $RS$. Hence $QR=QS$ and $QRS$ is an isoceles triangle. Thus, $\angle QSA=\theta$. But then $\angle QSA=\angle QPA=\theta$. This implies that $Q,\,A,\,P,\,S$ all lie on a circle. In turn, we conclude that $\angle QAS=\angle QPS=90^{\circ}$.

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Since $A$ is the midpoint of $RS$ (by construction) and $B$ is the midpoint of $PR$ (given), it follows that $AB$ is parallel to $SP$ and $SP=2AB=QA$. Thus, $QAPS$ is an isosceles trapezium and $SQ$ is parallel to $AP$.

We hence get $\angle SAP=\angle QPA=\angle QRA=\angle CAR$.

The last equality follows from the fact that $\angle QAR=90^{\circ}$, and $C$ is the midpoint of $QR$ so that $CA=CR=CQ$ for the right-angled triangle $QAR$.

It follows that $P,\,A,\,C$ are collinear.
 

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anemone said:
Here is the solution of other that I want to share:

Extend $RA$ such that $RA=AS$. Let $\angle QRA=\angle QPA=\theta$.

Observe that $QA$ is the perpendicular bisector of $RS$. Hence $QR=QS$ and $QRS$ is an isoceles triangle. Thus, $\angle QSA=\theta$. But then $\angle QSA=\angle QPA=\theta$. This implies that $Q,\,A,\,P,\,S$ all lie on a circle. In turn, we conclude that $\angle QAS=\angle QPS=90^{\circ}$.
Since $A$ is the midpoint of $RS$ (by construction) and $B$ is the midpoint of $PR$ (given), it follows that $AB$ is parallel to $SP$ and $SP=2AB=QA$. Thus, $QAPS$ is an isosceles trapezium and $SQ$ is parallel to $AP$.

We hence get $\angle SAP=\angle QPA=\angle QRA=\angle CAR$.

The last equality follows from the fact that $\angle QAR=90^{\circ}$, and $C$ is the midpoint of $QR$ so that $CA=CR=CQ$ for the right-angled triangle $QAR$.

It follows that $P,\,A,\,C$ are collinear.
That is a beautiful proof! I drew this diagram to help me understand it:
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The aim is to show that the blue and red line segments are collinear. The green elements are those constructed for the proof. At the point $A$, the angle between $AP$ and $AS$ is $\theta$, the angle between $AS$ and $AQ$ is $90^\circ$, and the angle between $AQ$ and $AC$ is $90^\circ - \theta$. Their sum is $180^\circ$, as required. [/sp]
 

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1. How do you prove that three points are collinear?

To prove that three points P, A, and C are collinear, you need to show that they lie on the same line. This can be done by showing that the slope between any two of the points is the same. If the slope is the same, then the three points are on the same line and are therefore collinear.

2. What is the definition of collinear points?

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3. Can three points be collinear if they are not on the same line?

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4. What are some methods for proving collinearity?

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5. Why is it important to prove that three points are collinear?

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