Problem when solving example with differential forms

In summary: I suggest you start from the beginning and read some more mathematics textbooks. In summary, the author of the pdfs you're citing seems to be stating that if you want to find the answer to a differential equation, you need to sum over all the derivatives. However, the author of the other pdf does not mention this requirement.
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davidge
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Hi was reading about differential forms, when I tried to solve the example
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given in this pdf https://www.rose-hulman.edu/~bryan/lottamath/difform.pdf. According to it, the answer is that on the image above. But when I tried to solve this same example by following the expression for ##w## given in this pdf http://www.bose.res.in/~amitabha/diffgeom/chap13.pdf, namely that a p-form ##w## can be written as $$\frac{1}{p!}w_{\mu_1 ... \mu_p}dx^{\mu_1} \wedge \ ... \ \wedge dx^{\mu_p}$$ and that ##w##, in this case, applied to two vectors ##v_{(1)}## and ##v_{(2)}## is ##w_{i j}v_{(1)}^i v_{(2)}^j##, the answer that I'm getting diverges from that given in the other pdf. What is wrong?
 
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I noticed that the only problem is that in one pdf they introduce a factor ##1 / p!## while in the other they don't. My answer is off by a factor of ##1/2## in this case. So what is the correct?

I guess if one were going to consider only the anti-symmetric part of ##A(u)B(v)## then a factor of ##1/2## would be needed. But if one were considering ##A(u)B(v) - A(v)B(u)## it is not clear whether a factor of ##1/2## is needed. (##A, B## are one-forms and ##v, u## are vectors)
 
  • #3
You ask us what's wrong with your calculation we do not get to see?
 
  • #4
haushofer said:
You ask us what's wrong with your calculation we do not get to see?
After this thread, I noticed that I have forgotten to summing over all components and that was the cause of not getting the right result.
Thanks
 
  • #5
Look, if you want people to invest time to help you, you shouldn't expect them to have paranormal abilities.

I've read a couple of your questions now and they seem highly confused, giving me the impression that you're studying stuff without the right background.
 

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