Polar to Cartesian conversion - how related?

In summary, the cartesian equation for the curve r=csctheta can be found by converting it to r=1/sin, and then using the relationship between y=1 and r=csc to plot the coordinates on a polar plane. This is done by drawing a cartesian coordinate system and a horizontal line y=1, and then using the equation r=csc to find the radius vector and the polar coordinate angle theta. This equation gives the same graph as y=1.
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Homework Statement


Find the cartesian equation for the curve r=csctheta

The Attempt at a Solution


I understand how to get the answer, by changing it to r=1/sin, and then rsin=1, and then since y=rsin, then y=1.

What I'm not understanding is the relationship between y=1 an r=csc. I thought that when you convert to a cartesian equation, it's supposed to either look the same when graphed or be able to be used to plot the r and theta coordinates onto a polar plane. But y=1 translates to r=1 on a polar plane, and r=csc is nothing like that?? What am I not understanding here?
 
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Draw a cartesian coordinate system and draw the horizontal line y = 1. Then draw a line from the origin to the point (3,1) on your horizontal line and make that a radius vector r. Label the polar coordinate angle [itex]\theta[/itex] in the proper position. Drop a line from your point (3,1) to the x-axis at (3,0) forming a little triangle with r and [itex]\theta[/itex] as part of it. The sides of that triangle are r, 3, and 1 units long. Notice that for that triangle that

[tex]\csc\theta = \frac r 1[/tex]

Then notice if you do the same thing using (x,1) instead of (3,1) you will still get

[tex]\csc\theta = \frac r 1[/tex]

So that equation [itex]r =\csc\theta[/itex] literally gives the same graph as y = 1.

[edit] fixed two typos
 
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Excellent! That helps a lot. But the last bit about using (x,1) - not sure how you're getting csc=r/x. Wouldn't it still be r/1?
 
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Yes, that was probably a typo. It is precisely because [itex]csc(\theta)= r/1[/itex] that [/itex]r= (1)csc(\theta)[/itex].

"r= 1" is NOT "y= 1". It's graph is the circle with center at the origin and radius 1.
 
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Excellent! That helps a lot. But the last bit about using (x,1) - not sure how you're getting csc=r/x. Wouldn't it still be r/1?

Yes. That was a typo as Halls surmised. There was another one too. I'll fix both.
 

Related to Polar to Cartesian conversion - how related?

1. What is the difference between polar and Cartesian coordinates?

Polar coordinates use a distance and angle measurement to locate a point on a plane, while Cartesian coordinates use x and y coordinates to locate a point on a plane.

2. How are polar and Cartesian coordinates related?

Polar and Cartesian coordinates are related through a mathematical conversion formula. This formula allows us to convert from one coordinate system to the other.

3. Why would you need to convert from polar to Cartesian coordinates?

Converting from polar to Cartesian coordinates can make it easier to perform calculations or graph points on a plane. It is also useful when working with equations that only use one coordinate system.

4. What is the conversion formula for polar to Cartesian coordinates?

The conversion formula is: x = r * cos(theta) and y = r * sin(theta), where r represents the distance from the origin and theta represents the angle from the positive x-axis.

5. Can you convert from Cartesian to polar coordinates?

Yes, the reverse conversion is also possible using the formula: r = sqrt(x^2 + y^2) and theta = tan^-1(y/x).

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