Parametric Tangent Problem driving me insane

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the equation of the tangent to a curve at a given point by two methods: without eliminating the parameter and by first eliminating the parameter. The book's answer for the equation is y = -2x + 3, but the person is having trouble understanding how to get it. They attempt to solve it using the derivative formula and substituting in the given point, but encounter difficulties. They eventually realize they need to use the other real square root in their calculation, which leads to the correct equation.
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Homework Statement



[tex] x = e^{t} , y = (t-1)^{2} , (1,1) [/tex]
Find an equation of the tangent to the curve at a given point by two methods. Without eliminating the parameter and by first eliminating the parameter.

The answer in the book says [tex] y = -2x + 3 [/tex] and I cannot see how you get it.

So I can't do it either way.


Homework Equations



[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{\frac{dy}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] \frac{dy}{dt} = 2(t-1)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = e^{t}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2(t-1)}{e^{t}}[/tex]



okay so now I need to substitute in (1,1)

Rearranging x and y in terms of t does no good:

[tex]x = e^{t}[/tex]

so[tex] t = lnx ...(1)[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{y} = t - 1[/tex]

so [tex]t = \sqrt{y} + 1 ... (2)[/tex]

At point (1,1):

t = 0 by equation (1)

t = 2 by equation (2)

So which t to use?

Lets try a different approach:

[tex] \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2(\sqrt{y} + 1 - 1)}{e^{lnx}}[/tex]

so [tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2\sqrt{y}}{x}[/tex]

Substituting (1,1)

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = 2 = m[/tex]

so [tex]y - y_{1} = m(x - x_{1})[/tex]

[tex]y = 2x - 1[/tex]

I really can't see what I'm doing wrong. Any help appreciated.
 
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Andrusko said:
[tex] t = lnx ...(1)[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{y} = t - 1[/tex]

so [tex]t = \sqrt{y} + 1 ... (2)[/tex]

At point (1,1):

t = 0 by equation (1)

t = 2 by equation (2)

So which t to use?

Remember every positive number has two real square roots. Try using the other one.
 
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Ah of course. That sorts it out:

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2(0-1)}{e^{0}}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = -2[/tex]

[tex] y - 1 = -2x + 2[/tex]
[tex] y = -2x + 3[/tex]

Thanks!
 

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