Open Conditions for Matrix Groups: Understanding the Role of det(A)≠0

In summary, a condition for a matrix group to be open is that the determinant of the matrix group is not equal to zero. This implies that GL(n) has the same dimensions as the group of allnxn matrices.
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gentsagree
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What does it mean for a condition to be "open"? E.g. it is said that det(A)≠0 is an open condition for a matrix group.

Furthermore, this implies that GL(n) has the same dimensions as the group of all nxn matrices as, and I quote, "the subgroup of matrices with det(A)=0 is a subset of measure zero".

1. Could you explain why this is true?
2. Could you shed light on what kind of measure we are talking about here (Lebesgue, Dirac, or else)?

Thank you.
 
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mxn matrices are trivially isomorphic to [itex] \mathbb{R}^{m+n}[/tex] and have the Lebesgue measure induced from this. det(A) is a polynomial, so all they are using is that the set defined by p(x) = 0 for some polynomial p is a measure zero subset of Euclidean space.
 
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I don't really understand the explanation that Wikipedia gives of a Lebesgue measure-zero set. I understand intuitively that subsets consisting of single points are of measure zero, but the proof evades me. =(

any intuitive explanations, or a short proof perhaps?
 
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Intuitively, a set has measure zero if it can be covered by a collection of open "intervals" whose total "size" is arbitrarily small. In ##n## dimensions, "interval" means ##n##-dimensional box, and "size" means the ##n##-dimensional volume of that box, i.e. the product of its ##n## side lengths. We specify open boxes simply to avoid degenerate boxes where one or more sides have length zero.

If we have a set ##A## consisting of one point ##x##, then surely it can be covered by a single open box centered at ##x##, with all of its sides having length ##\epsilon##. Thus the box has volume ##\epsilon^n##. We can do this for arbitrarily small ##\epsilon##, so ##A## has measure zero.

The same argument works if ##A## consists of a finite number of points, and it can be modified to work if ##A## is countably infinite.

Of course, there are uncountably many matrices with determinant zero, so a different argument is needed, but the intuitive idea is still the same.
 
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Thank you, very clear. However, do we need to establish a comparison between the subset of matrices with determinant zero and that (complementary) of matrices with determinant not equal zero, in order to say that the first has, comparatively, measure-zero? Or is the measure absolutely true?
 
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gentsagree said:
Thank you, very clear. However, do we need to establish a comparison between the subset of matrices with determinant zero and that (complementary) of matrices with determinant not equal zero, in order to say that the first has, comparatively, measure-zero? Or is the measure absolutely true?
I'm not sure that comparing the set with its complement will be fruitful. The complement will have infinite measure, but that alone doesn't imply anything. It's easy to find examples of sets ##A## where ##A^c## has infinite measure, but ##A## can have zero, positive, or infinite measure.

Probably the way to proceed is what Office_Shredder suggested. For ##n \times n## matrices, the determinant is a polynomial function in ##n^2## variables. If you can prove that in general, the zero set of a polynomial function has measure zero, then you're done. This is clearly true if ##n=1##, because then there are only finitely many zeros. You could proceed by induction from here, but you'll probably need some theorems from measure/integration theory to get very far.
 
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It also follows from Sard's theorem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sard's_theorem But the proof of Sard's theorem is a bit involved. However, the proof of this specific result requires just a special case of Sard's theorem, which is not as difficult as the full theorem. Jbunniii's approach is probably easiest though.
 

Related to Open Conditions for Matrix Groups: Understanding the Role of det(A)≠0

1. What is an open condition for groups?

An open condition for groups refers to the requirement that the elements of a group have certain properties that enable the group to be manipulated in a specific way. These properties typically include closure, associativity, identity, and inverse elements.

2. Why is an open condition important for groups?

An open condition is important for groups because it allows for the group to be operated on in a consistent and predictable manner. Without an open condition, the group may not have the necessary properties to perform common operations, such as multiplication or addition.

3. How is an open condition different from a closed condition?

An open condition differs from a closed condition in that a closed condition only requires the elements of a group to have closure, whereas an open condition requires additional properties such as associativity, identity, and inverses.

4. What are some examples of groups that satisfy an open condition?

Examples of groups that satisfy an open condition include the set of integers under addition, the set of non-zero real numbers under multiplication, and the set of 2x2 invertible matrices under matrix multiplication.

5. Can a group satisfy an open condition if it does not have closure?

No, a group cannot satisfy an open condition if it does not have closure. Closure is a fundamental property for groups and without it, the other properties required for an open condition cannot be satisfied.

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