Number systems: construction of rational numbers

In summary, to show that there exists a natural number n, which can be considered rational as well, such that nb>a, you can use the Peano theorem and define n in terms of a and b. By considering the fraction a/b, which is a rational number since a and b are rational, and using the fact that a>b, you can find a natural number n such that nb>a.
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Homework Statement



let a and b be rational numbers
if a>b>0
show that there exists a natural number n, which can be considered rational as well, st
nb>a

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The Attempt at a Solution



I was trying using the peano theorem of natural numbers

define set of natural numbers st n E S.
Assume n =1
(1)b = b
we know that b <a. hence 1 E N.

Assume n E n. then n' E n
n'b >a
(n+1)b
bn +b
b(1) + b
2b

I am kinda confused need some help in this thanks very much
 
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Thank you for your post. It seems like you are on the right track with using the Peano theorem to solve this problem. However, I believe there are some steps missing in your attempt.

Firstly, you have defined a set of natural numbers but it is not clear how this set is related to the problem at hand. Instead, you could try to define a natural number n in terms of a and b, such that nb>a. One way to do this is to consider the fraction a/b. Since a and b are both rational numbers, we know that a/b is also a rational number. Now, we can use the fact that a>b to show that a/b is greater than 1. This means that we can find a natural number n such that n>a/b. Then, we can multiply both sides by b to get nb>a.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need further clarification. Good luck with your solution!
 

Related to Number systems: construction of rational numbers

1. What are rational numbers?

Rational numbers are numbers that can be written as a ratio of two integers, where the denominator is not equal to zero. They can be expressed as fractions or decimals, and they include both positive and negative numbers.

2. How are rational numbers constructed?

Rational numbers are constructed by taking the set of integers and dividing them into equivalence classes based on their ratio. For example, the number 1/2 and 2/4 would be in the same equivalence class because they represent the same ratio. This construction allows for the creation of all rational numbers.

3. What is the difference between a rational number and an irrational number?

The main difference between rational and irrational numbers is that irrational numbers cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers. They are decimal numbers that go on infinitely without repeating, such as pi or the square root of 2. Rational numbers, on the other hand, have a finite or repeating decimal representation.

4. Can all fractions be written as rational numbers?

Yes, all fractions can be written as rational numbers. This is because a fraction is a representation of a ratio of two integers, which is the basis of rational numbers. However, not all decimal numbers can be expressed as rational numbers, as some will go on infinitely without repeating.

5. How are rational numbers used in real life?

Rational numbers are used in many practical applications, such as cooking, construction, and financial calculations. They are also used in science and engineering to represent measurements and quantities. In everyday life, we use rational numbers to express quantities such as time, money, and distance.

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